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Did Ray Change His Teaching On This.
Johnny70:
Hi Dennis & Wanda,
I like the Complete Jewish Bible translation where they put - (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were over.) in parentheses. Because when you read verse 4, and then in verse 5 - you read - "This is the first resurrection." This completes verse 4. In verse 5 - the parenthetical statement is another topic but adds crucial information about the rest of the dead - IMO.
Revelation 20:5 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were over.) This is the first resurrection.
John
Wanda:
Thanks John.
Wanda:
--- Quote ---When will judgement have occurred if the result is "the whole world learning righteousness"? I don't think Ray taught that "the whole world will learn righteousness" at (or because of) Resurrection, but at (and because of) the Second death.
--- End quote ---
That is correct Dave.
HADES AND THE SECOND DEATH
https://bible-truths.com/lake16-D5.htm
When Jesus returns to this earth in glory with His holy angels (Matt. 25:31), He will come with great power to JUDGE (Rev. 19:11), and those who oppose Him will be thrown into "a lake of fire" (Verse 20). Satan also is cast into this "lake of fire" (Rev. 20:10), and "death and hell/hades" is cast into this "lake of fire" (Verse 14).
The second death is not a literal death of the physical body--neither for the Elect nor the Wicked. It is a death of the carnal mind, the heart of sin, the nature of sin. Our literal, physical flesh and blood does not die a second time. But all character flaws associated with sin must die:
Johnny70:
Hi Wanda & Dave,
Great insight as always Wanda - on this subject of - Hades and The Second Death. Rev. 20:14 - distinctly says - "Death and The Grave - were cast into the Lake of Fire - And This is The Second Death". Death and The Grave are enemies of mankind and are to be ultimately destroyed in the Second Death. The PURPOSE of this Lake of Fire is to destroy Death and The Grave - which are conditions - and NOT PERSONS. The intent of the symbolic Lake of Fire is not to burn up people. That is the good news that Ray Smith reports on in his many super good graphic articles on his sight - to set people free of the insane lie about an ever burning Hell Fire. Hats off to Ray Smith, indeed. So then the Second Death by Our Creator's will and design becomes an indispensable friend of man's by destroying mankind's GREATEST ENEMIES! So the Second Death is so much better than the First Death. Just like the Second Adam was so much better than the First Adam. IMO
John
Wanda:
Hi John,
This was my understanding, and why I asked the question, even though I didn't make myself clear. Ray's email made me think I might be misunderstanding what he taught on the subject. Having Rev. 20:5 taken off the spurious list was an added blessing. ☺
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