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Unusual Question About Resurrection
ZekeSr:
Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Ecc 12:7 then the dust shall return to the earth as it was, and the spirit shall return to God who gave it.
People who have been medically dead and revived did not yet have their spirit leave the body. I believe they were not truly dead.
Mike
Johnny70:
Hi Mike,
Yes you are right. The same is true of animals - your dog or cat, Ecclesiastes 3:18-21 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) 18 Concerning people, I said to myself, “God is testing them, so that they will see that by themselves they are just animals. 19 After all, the same things that happen to people happen to animals, the very same thing — just as the one dies, so does the other. Yes, their breath is the same; so that humans are no better than animals; since nothing matters, anyway. 20 They all go to the same place; they all come from dust, and they all return to dust. 21 Who knows if the spirit of a human being goes upward and the spirit of an animal goes downward into the earth?”
This spirit could be extended to insects and even plants IMO. The SPIRIT seems to be a life force or energy - and modern science thinks that everything is just a dance of energy. God takes credit for all this - of course. Even the base elements are descrete packets of energy. The energy or force looks like it works in conformity with the human body. Very complicated, indeed.
John
Wanda:
--- Quote ---So my question here - is at what point after a person dies and is brought back to life by God (even if only a hour plus after dying) does it qualify as a resurrection - in a legitimate Biblical definition or sense of the term?
--- End quote ---
John - from what I've learned since posting the question, according to medical science, a person is not clinically dead until all brain activity and function has ceased. Even then, it's not conclusive, because of cases where people have been put on life support, later taken off and could breath on their own, often living for years in a comatose state.
There are others who have come out of their comas, who were diagnosed clinically dead, so I would agree with both Mike and Bob, that in situations of medical intervention, these can not be classified as literal deaths, where the spirit has returned to God.
To answer your question, at what point would it qualify as a resurrection. There is a process that occures after death, that are the traditional five stages of decomposition, and IMO, you would only need to consider stage one as a qualifier for resurrection, which is Initial Decay - Bacteria located mainly in the lower intestine begin decomposition, giving a greenish color to the lower abdomen.
Wanda:
Yes John, God is the life giver of all living things.
Job 12:10
In his hand is the life of every living thing and the breath of all mankind.
No medical intervention can change what God has already purposed are the days of a persons life.
Job 14: 5
A person’s days are determined;
you have decreed the number of his months
and have set limits he cannot exceed.
Johnny70:
Hi Mike,
Sorry Mike, I thought when you said, "MEDICALLY DEAD" that you meant, "CLINICALLY DEAD". Because as you say - when you are clinically dead is the medical term applied for cessation of blood circulation and breathing, the two necessary criteria to sustain human and many other organisms' lives. It occurs when the heart stops beating in a regular rhythm, a condition called cardiac arrest.
I believe that absolutely no one can live without blood circulation and without breathing (the intake of oxygen). If those two process are not active the person will be dead very soon. And if the person pops up alive at some point - say a few hours later, the next day (which does happen) then it is simply a miss diagnosis's and the person was not clinically dead.
John
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