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ML:
I disagree with the 2 "Gospel" doctrine, but interesting to note. Some say only listen to Jesus and throw out Paul, some say only listen to Paul and throw out Jesus, or say for some reason Jesus doesn't apply to us. A lot of focus on that physical aspect, instead of being one in the body of Christ.

It seems especially that those who come to believe UR are especially pulled into these doctrines.

Prune Soleiado:
Hello ML 👋

1 Corinthians 3:4-6:
« For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not mere human beings?
What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe—as the Lord has assigned to each his task.
I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but GOD has been making it grow. »

Whatever they believe, God makes them believe this.
But whoever is given an ear to hear and an eye to recognize the Word Of God, JESUS, won’t follow those false doctrines and prophets.

God Our Father be glorified 🙏

Dave in Tenn:
Some are just enamored with "theology" to the point that they can't read scripture except to see it as a theological treatise.

Ray's most thorough direct teaching on the subject is here:

http://bible-truths.com/rapture.htm

But that carries through to many of the other papers, etc.  I'm glad I didn't "come to believe UR", but to believe in Jesus.  Paul's "conversion" is as a pattern that I did not set out to follow, but happened just the same.

Dennis Vogel:
Do James and Paul Contradict? Parts one and two:

https://youtu.be/dpnFpde69I4

https://youtu.be/EcryObkrBOQ

Dave in Tenn:
Been thinking about this much of the day, and want to share a bit of my heart.  Take it for what it's worth, and not for "doctrine".

You said, "It seems especially that those who come to believe UR are especially pulled into these doctrines."  To me, this is part of the reason why I don't think the "end" is extremely close.  I don't believe this generation of "believers in the Name of the Son of God" are yet equipped for the work we are being raised for.  And I think it's for the same reason Paul wrote to the Corinthians--because we are yet carnal.  "We" seem to be more interested in theories and prognostications and dry theology and less interested in obeying the Gospel.  I don't have a passive disinterest in eschatology.  I have more an active aversion to it.  I don't know for sure, but that seems likely to last until I die.  Yet, I love His appearing.  Make of that what you will.

I think in my heart that "the end" is going to be quite a bit different than what most imagine.  He has warned me off of my own "wrath" and exercising my own "vengeance", and the reasons for that are in the same statements telling me what not to do.  At the very least, His wrath and indignation are of a greater degree and efficacy than mine, but I can't help but believe they are also of a different character.  I've studied the "word", and it's pretty telling what it really means.  I don't doubt His power or wisdom, but when I look at the commandments He's given to His disciples, the parables, even the example of the sword-wielding Peter in the Garden, I think His ways are going to be proven to be beyond our ways, and His thoughts beyond our thoughts. 

As a practical person believing in the salvation of all, I want to know what works.  And so far, I am just beginning to see it...largely because it hasn't completely worked in me yet.  If the last are going to be first, then perhaps the last need to be better attuned to the Spiritual ways of God than this generation is.  He will complete what He started, and there is a place prepared for us all, but He is the Lord.

I don't know "when" any more than anybody else.  The same "place" that produces (even demands) that humility is the same "place" that allows me the boldness to say that nobody else does either.  I don't claim to be "right", but I'd rather think on these things than play with my Bible.

 

 

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