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Does Having No Free Will Mean?
Wanda:
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--- Quote from: Wanda on September 04, 2019, 04:02:56 PM ---Does having no free will mean
We should never try to improve on something in our lives, and instead wait for God to do it or not do it for us?
Does this fall into the category of relying on God in all things without any effort on our parts?
Does God really expect us to make no decisions because he makes all of them for us?
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God does not make decisions for us. I make my decisions and I use my will to do this or to do that. And I’ll be held accountable for how I use my will. I’ll also be held accountable for how I failed to use my will.
The parable of the talents comes to mind.
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But are your decisions based on only your will or are they determined by outside influence?
lareli:
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--- Quote from: lareli on September 05, 2019, 05:50:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Wanda on September 04, 2019, 04:02:56 PM ---Does having no free will mean
We should never try to improve on something in our lives, and instead wait for God to do it or not do it for us?
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Whats the difference between us doing it and God doing it
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There is no difference, if we consider even our desire to improve on something is influenced by God.
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So then if I neglect to improve on something in my life and instead I wait for God to do it, aren’t I just waiting on myself to do it?
Wanda:
--- Quote ---So then if I neglect to improve on something in my life and instead I wait for God to do it, aren’t I just waiting on myself to do it?
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Lareli,
I don't believe there is any question we could ask or any answer we could give, that would not involve God's influence in some way. Everything comes back to Gods will in everything regardless of our own will, thoughts, choices and decisions. My answer would be no, I wouldn't be waiting on myself because God always has the final say. As Dave said, be mindful of your motives, but we don't have control of our motives either.
When I posted this, I didn't realize I was exerting my own will to somehow circumvent God's will in this matter, but he knew that and inspired me to post my questions so he could show me where my thinking was wrong. Just one more example of how God's will is always working for our good, even when our will is often in opposition.
Rocco:
This may be a little off topic, maybe not. Because I get to drive long distances in my job I have a lot of time to listen to youtube and podcasts. I get to listen to Ray's talks over and over but have also been really fascinated with what these (mostly atheist) quantum physicist are discovering about the nature of reality. Things like collapsing wave function and the dual nature of light as a particle and a wave, but the thing that really caught my attention was that they think that all the universe is an energy field that consist of every possibility of reality and only materializes when measured or observed. Wow!
Pro 15:3
The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.
Isa 46:10
Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things that are not yet done,
Saying, ‘My counsel shall stand,
And I will do all My pleasure,'
Heb 11:3
By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.
Hang On Buckle Up enjoy the ride folks Next stop Paradise
Prune Soleiado:
You’re exactly on the straight right (milky 😁) way, Brother Rocco!
Amen 🙏❤️
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