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waterfall77:
This is a little off subject, I have wondered about what seaofglass just wrote. Is there a reason why God opens the eyes of some people  to see truth
but those same people are not apart of the chosen ?
                                                                          Aubrey

Musterseed:
The Old vs. the NEW

John 1:17,,, For the law was given by Moses( the old covenant)
but grace and truth came by Jesus. ( New Covenant)

Luke 5:36-39
And He ( Jesus) spoke unto them a parable unto them ( Pharisees); no man puts a piece of
new garment upon an old; If otherwise, then both the new makes a rent ( tear) and the piece
that was taken out of the new agrees not with the old, not according with the covenant which I made with their fathers ( the old covenant Heb.8:9) And no man puts old wine into new bottles ( wineskins)
; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish( be RUINED).
But new wine must be put into new bottles and both are preserved. No man also having drunk
old wine straight away desires new, for he says “ the OLD is better.”

This is a parable! Jesus is speaking of the Old and New Covenants . We cannot, we dare not try to put the old with the new.BOTH WILL BE RUINED. Why dont we believe Jesus? We can’t put the old and new together. And true to Jesus words , when people come into the knowledge of the New Covenant,
they PREFER THE OLD BETTER.

2 Cor. 5:1,,, Wherefore henceforth know we no man after ( according to ) the flesh; yeah
thought we have known Christ after the flesh , YET NOW HENCEFORTH WE KNOW HIM
NO MORE.( after the flesh)

2 Corth 5:17,, Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature( creation) , old
things are passed away; behold,ALL THINGS ARE BECOME NEW.

This is from LOF pt. 6 , all caps are Rays.

 My understanding is we have to leave the Pharisees in the dust. Following the Sermon
On the Mount New Spiritual Laws of Jesus Christ and only possible with Christ dwelling
In us.
 
Another quote from Ray from the LOF pt. 6,,,,,,,” The CHOSEN live by the New Covenant:
The “ CALLED”  try to live by the New and Old covenants. They have never learned this
simple lesson.”No servant can serve TWO masters.( Luke 16:13) they are not to be unequally yoked together, seeing that they are not equal. If you want to be a New Testament Christian, then you need to learn and know what the New Testament is all about.


Love your enemies
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world, lust of the flesh, lust of
the eyes, pride of life

I am crucified WITH Christ.

These are the spiritual laws of the anew Covenant. They are far superior to the laws
of Moses under the old covenant.

I hope this helps
In Christ, Pamela

Wanda:


When my nephew went to jail I didnt know God as I do today and ignorantly believed, it had been an effective deterrent. I now know it was only by God's will he didn't return to drugs once he was released. Other experiences of helping ex-offenders, who spent many years locked up, and returned to drugs,  was proof enough to me, locking people up doesn't work.

Seaofglass, and Dave, both your comments are timely for me.  Recently I was meditating on the importance of developing a Christ like love for others. I focused my attention on what being no part of the world really means in our lives. Yes, we are not suppose to do as the world does, but there seemed to be something more I was missing.  It then occured to me,  perhaps it extends to our not even concerning ourselves  with what the world is doing. Maybe that's the secret to developing a Christ like love for others. 

I can't remember where I saw this, but saved it as a daily reminder.

You were created in the image of God, who is love and full of grace. What might happen if you started believing this?

What I find both helpful and necessary, is to focus my attention on all things that glorify God.

As someone thinks within himself, so he is.

Proverbs 23:7

Whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable — if anything is excellent or praiseworthy — think about such things.

Philippians 4:8

We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

2 Corinthians 10:5

Take every thought captive. What a great idea. But is it even possible? Well, if we trusted God’s word, we would know it is possible.

The answer to capturing our  thoughts is right there in Scripture, hidden in plain sight. Psalm 46:10 says, “Be still and know that I am God.” 

indianabob:
thanks Pamela,
Very important principle to understand.
We cannot mix or blend the Old covenant of works of the law with the New covenant of grace. We must, as God instructs, operate in one or the other.
One reason for this in my view is that when we mix them we tend to believe that it is our "acceptance" of the gift of the spirit of God in our lives that makes a difference. Therefore taking some credit for a decision on our part when actually the miracle that has brought us into faith or belief was 100% God through his son the Lord Jesus.

Moderators; please correct my phrasing where needed.
Indiana Bob

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