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Rocco:
Hey Doug I often feel the same way. Old habits plus non-stop news from around the world. Do you follow the news habitually? I cant seem to get enough of it TV, radio, internet podcast etc I feel I've got to know whats happening now. I've really been following the flooding in China and possible failure of the Three Gorges Dam. It's like coming across an accident on the highway its impossible not to look. I remember Ray saying he now views the scripture as one big parable and on one of his videos he mentioned how humanity has always feared god(s) but he no longer had that fear. Thats where I want to be and where I believe the Lord is taking his elect in this age. Burning out the old trees, grass, bringing down the mountains in our life that all represent who we are in this physical world. The truth that sets us free is not found on a news sight its not geopolitical, economic, academic, medical nor anything else of this world. The Lord tells us not to worry not even in a pandemic. Even thought its not a physical dying & burning its not fun, I need to be careful that the cares of this world dont extinguish that fire nor resuscitate that death prematurely. Well, I can only experience this, its the Lords work and his fire and I believe it will not be quenched until it has accomplished its purpose.
Psa 2:11
Serve the LORD with fear,
And rejoice with trembling.
Doug:
Hi Rocky,
Yes, way to much news and commentary. What has been bothering me is the inability to not worry about things and to a certain level accepting God’s will. My emotions should be no different if an outcome is different than what I think is best. The only thing that matters is what a God has deemed to be. Not sure properly saying this, but feel it is to large degree lack of faith.
Rocco:
Doug I understand and I too feel guilty from what I believe the devil whispers in my ear that I have no faith. That's a lie, it may be little faith but its not no faith. Rom 12:3 For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith. I think sometimes that I'm not worrying but it seems I'm just suppressing it and often get acid re-flux. I believe there is a difference between worry and concern. Paul had concern for all the churches (2 Cor 11:28) but we know he also said this: 2Ti 1:12
For this reason I also suffer these things; nevertheless I am not ashamed, for I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep what I have committed to Him until that Day.
The other night I was thinking about these things and this verse hit me, I had to get out of bed and look it up.
1 John 3:20 For if our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things.
That vs brings a lot of comfort to me and hopefully you as well.
In the process and in the fire but He stands with us in the fire Dan. 3:23-25
Your brother
Rocky
AwesomeSavior:
Rocco:
Don't know if anyone caught the minor error from Ray with your original post on this thread: I am an "ambassador for Christ" (I Cor 5:20). First Corinthians Chapter 5 only goes up to verse 13. The ambassador verse is from 2 Corinthians 5:20.
Ray said "ambassadors cannot legally take part in the politics of foreign nations". Did you all catch Ray's use of the word "foreign" in his sentence?
The "come out from among them and be ye separate" is from 2 Corinthians 6:17, and is referring to being unequally yoked with unbelievers, Belial (worthless or wicked), infidels, and idols from the previous 3 verses of that chapter. A deeper dive into "unequally yoked" through Strong's reveals "to associate discordantly". That word "discordant" can mean not being in accord, conflicting, disagreeable. In other words, I don't try to be in disagreeable conflict with the unbelievers of the world with a "march on Washington" or getting involved with the "operations" of a government.
Here are some verses from the Bible from both Jesus and Paul; something people can consider:
"Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's" (Matt 22:21 & Mar 12:17 & Luk 20:25) [Jesus].
Paul makes his first appeal against being scourged, identifying himself as a Roman citizen (Acts 22:25-29).
Paul makes his second appeal as a Roman citizen, unto Caesar: "I appeal unto Caesar" (Acts 25:11 & Acts 28:19).
"For there stood by me this night the angel of God, whose I am, and whom I serve, Saying, Fear not, Paul; thou must be brought before Caesar: and, lo, God hath given thee all them that sail with thee" (Acts 27:23-24). [Jesus and Paul].
Why did Paul bother to appeal unto the ruling political power of that day? Why not just accept his sentence? Jesus also confirmed that he had to be brought before Caesar...
Dean
Rocco:
Good points Dean. The word foreign did jump out when I read Ray's email, did not catch that the verse was wrong. I see that in few places on the sight as well as crediting the wrong person with a quote.In his videos I laugh when Ray would often say Hebrews when he really meant the book of Romans. He loved the book of Romans esp. Ch. 8 Ray's insights are profound but I'm also encouraged by his humanity.
Heb 11:9
By faith he dwelt in the land of promise as in a foreign country, dwelling in tents with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise;
Heb 11:10
for he waited for the city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God.
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