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Interesting / Coincidence?
lareli:
Yes. The virus is not worthy of the resulting response to it. Locking down entire nations around the world is something I could fathom if an extinction level asteroid were headed for earth.. or perhaps if a verified alien invasion were to be expected.. but this virus (crown) is not worthy of the response that it has generated. Which makes it interesting.
But the verse doesn’t say that the crown (virus) is that which conquers. It just says “a crown was given unto him, a he went forth conquering..” it says that “he” conquers.. the crown perhaps gave him the authority to do the conquering but a crown itself is just a crown.
It is interesting that this relatively mild virus (crown) has given the worlds nations the unprecedented power to “conquer” the world order and flip it upside down. The fact that this virus has over %99 survivability rate only makes our situation that much more peculiar and interesting.
As far as the literalness of the scripture.. there is not literally a white horse with a literal man on it riding around the world with his bow and crown. To draw comparisons of what we are all experiencing and living though with the verse is not literal at all is it?
Are viruses spiritual? Are they physical? Won’t spiritual happenings have physical manifestations? I don’t know the answers to those questions. But I do know with certainty that God planned for a relatively mild virus to result in the shake up the entire world.
Dave in Tenn:
...and what else happened?
Sometimes I envy people who's eyes are only on the "big picture" (as they see it through their small window). Surely it's more comforting than what I have to go through. I couldn't handle a God's eye view of things, but there are an awfully lot of trees in the forest and every one of them has a separate history.
lareli:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on October 14, 2020, 07:45:08 PM ---...and what else happened?
Sometimes I envy people who's eyes are only on the "big picture" (as they see it through their small window). Surely it's more comforting than what I have to go through. I couldn't handle a God's eye view of things, but there are an awfully lot of trees in the forest and every one of them has a separate history.
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To be fair, you don’t know if someone’s eyes are only on the big picture.
You should elaborate on what offended you so that whoever offended you can have the opportunity to clear it up, or at least be made aware of their offense.
Dave in Tenn:
My post followed yours, but was not specifically and wholly addressed to yours. We're all wired differently, and sometimes I wish I was wired differently than I am.
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Did anybody read the entire portion of LoF that I excerpted, if you have not already? That part about the stone with a name on it? That's the pattern to follow. But I garuntee there's a guy with a Bible out there making hay over what physical object the white stone "spiritually" represents. And if there isn't, there will be. That's just not the way spiritual understanding works.
lareli:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on October 16, 2020, 08:35:10 AM ---My post followed yours, but was not specifically and wholly addressed to yours. We're all wired differently, and sometimes I wish I was wired differently than I am.
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Did anybody read the entire portion of LoF that I excerpted, if you have not already? That part about the stone with a name on it? That's the pattern to follow. But I garuntee there's a guy with a Bible out there making hay over what physical object the white stone "spiritually" represents. And if there isn't, there will be. That's just not the way spiritual understanding works.
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You’re talking about the error of comparing spiritual things to physical things- which is why I ended my post asking if viruses are spiritual or physical.. I’ll add another question, what about emotions? Is fear spiritual? Has fear conquered most of the developed world.. and an unreasonable fear at that since it is a fear that has altered everyone’s lives and it’s inspired by a virus that has a less than %1 death rate?
How about the next seal in Rev 6:3,4
And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
I’ve noted in other threads how everyone is killing each other, spiritually speaking if you hate your brother than you are killing him, yes? Families, friends, strangers etc are killing each other over the politics of the virus or over politics in general.
Like someone said, you won’t understand a prophecy fulfilled until it passes. How long after it passes though? Because these things have passed already haven’t they?
Please know that I don’t take any of this so seriously that I intend to rub anyone the wrong way, and out of consideration for the rest I’ll stop after this post. But as the title of the thread says “interesting/coincidence” I only mean to be interested in a very lighthearted or even a fun way. I never want to take something to be so serious that I forget that it really doesn’t matter. But at the same time it all matters. But the end of my/our story is already written and nothing I do, say, think, or know, can change that. Just lighthearted thoughts being shared among similar minds.
Forgive me if I get it wrong but Ray said in one of ‘The beast’ papers that “that there is a beast out there in the world, I have no doubt. But of what concern is that to me? I’m more concerned with the beast in me!” I’m paraphrasing from memory but it was something like that. I feel the same way about everything in Rev. How Rev pertains to me inwardly is of more value than how Rev or if Rev manifests in the world. It’s just for fun conversation.. we’re all gonna die in the end anyway... and then live again!
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