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Jordan Peterson, Steven Fry - Good and Evil - L Ray Smith Explains (YouTube)
Musterseed:
Quote from Jordan Peterson
“ If you were able to reveal the best of yourself to the world, you would
be an overwhelming force for good.”
Not before being refined in the fire of Gods grace you won’t. But he doesn’t know that.
“ one of his teachings is ,,, How to develop thick skin and become mentally tough.
another one is,,,, Stop doing stupid things for a month, it will change your life.
and this,,,, only practice what you want to become.
All wonderful carnal minded , free willing advise for self determinism.
My son read all his stuff for a long time and said he learned how to be humble
and not so arrogant from him. I told him only God causes one to be humble.
He got angry with me ,,,,,,and he is still arrogant , but I love him.😁There are YT Jordan Peterson videos about free will .
I haven’t watched them yet but now I am curious.
ECC.3:1...For everything there is a season and a time for EVERY MATTER under heaven.
Phil.2:13...For it is God which works in you both to Will and to Do of His good pleasure.
These scriptures blow free Will out of the water but who believes our report?
Thankyou Dennis for doing the video. Gods will be done.
lareli:
Well.. far be it from me to tell anyone else how to judge someone. But as someone who has listened to Jordan Peterson for many years I feel I should point out that its not wise to take a two minute snippet from a 3 hour lecture and then render a judgment on the whole.
Especially with such confidence in your judgment that you go and create a video about him and release it to the world.
And Musterseed as someone familiar with the content, I can tell you that you’re bearing false witness when you say that Gods refining fire is something Jordan Peterson knows nothing about. There is plenty of content with him talking about being refined by fire.
Dennis Vogel:
I have watched many hours of Jordan Peterson and am aware of his struggles and teachings. I subscribe to his YouTube channel and even have a YouTube playlist w/50 of his videos.
But he is not enlightened when it comes to scripture, that's all.
Musterseed:
Jordan Peterson believes in the doctrine of free Will.
And he freely( pun intended) admits it in the video
Jordan Peterson takes on Sam Harris argument that free Will doesn’t exist.
Almost at the end of the video he says” I strongly believe that we have free Will,
that we are responsible for our choices,, etc.
Well I have a teacher who says that we don’t have a free Will and that it is blasphemy to think
that you do.
Isaiah 10:15.... Shall the ax( the one being used by God)boast itself against Him that hews with it.
Rom. 9:20.. Shall the thing formed say to Him that formed it, why have you made me thus?
From the LOF, can you handle the truth.
God is the potter, we are the clay , not the other way around.
Clay does not posses self- determinism.
It is from the arrogant heart of man that he presumes to take to himself
a presumed power that can thwart the very will of God.
Every vessel of humanity is first made marred in the hands of the potter....
The carnal mind is enmity ( a deep seated hatred for God)... for out of the heart proceed
evil thoughts. Every vessel must be refashioned, converted, judged, purged
and born again of the Spirit.
Mankind believes that he is greater than God Himself, and most do not even believe that God is real.
And we are accountable for what comes out of our arrogant heart but God is responsible for giving us such a heart in the first place.
Nebucanezzer, the King of Assyria, the prodigal son are some of my favourite teachings about free Will.
Anyway. It is the first thing I learned at BT and I have been studying it for six or seven years and have
been given much insight on human behaviour. I thank God through the foolish preaching of Mr L Ray
Smith for the teaching that the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God.
Col.2:8.. see to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit according to human
tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world and not according to Christ.
1 Tim.6 :20........ Avoid the irreverent babble and contradicts of what is falsely called knowledge.
Mr Peterson, is in Gods plan as all humanity is and God operates out of the council of HIS OWN WILL.
ALL IS OF GOD.
Wow Lareli, I can’t believe you called me a liar . No offence taken . I have two questions for you if you feel like answering.
What’s wrong with having confidence in believing the scriptures about good and evil and showing it to the whole world? And this,,, what happened to the g that used to be in your name, just curious.😁
Grace and peace Lareli
lareli:
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on June 09, 2021, 06:59:37 PM ---I have watched many hours of Jordan Peterson and am aware of his struggles and teachings. I subscribe to his YouTube channel and even have a YouTube playlist w/50 of his videos.
But he is not enlightened when it comes to scripture, that's all.
--- End quote ---
Agreed. Not enlightened when it comes to scripture.
His bible lectures are titled ‘the psychological significance of the biblical stories’
He’s a psychologist not a bible teacher. I’ve gained a lot of insight into the psychological significance of the stories through his lectures.
Maybe he’s not enlightened in scripture truths but he does have enough insight to know that
1-it is God who is responsible for evil and suffering.
And
2-In light of this truth, the attitude to have towards God is NOT to shake your fist at or be resentful to God.
And this insight can only been given to him from God. Which I would say he is inspired by God to know those things.
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