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lareli:
There’s a book called The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind by Gustave Le Bon
It’s noted that Hitler found the findings of this book particularly useful.
Book 1:The Mind of Crowds
Chapter 4: A Religious Shape Assumed by All the Convictions of Crowds
Short chapter. Available online. Worth a read.
zvezda:
--- Quote from: John9362 on August 03, 2021, 03:19:14 AM ---
For what it's worth I believe we are here now:
And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a MARK in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the MARK, or the NAME of the wild beast, or the NUMBER OF HIS NAME.
Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the number of the wild beast: for it is THE NUMBER OF A MAN; and his number is SIX HUNDRED THREESCORE AND SIX [666] " (Rev. 13:11-18) .
To me the Covid-19 Vaccine is the "MARK"
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I don't think the vaccine is the mark. We have discussed Rev 13:16 quite a few times already, look it up in the old threads.
A lot of people have died after taking the jabs, I don't see how they can buy and sell from six feet under.
https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data
Some countries have approved ivermectin for covid treatment, people in those countries don't need to get the jabs.
We all know we need to pay attention to every single word in scripture.
Rev 13: 16 And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a MARK in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
jab or no jab, some people already can't buy and sell
the small - kids are not financial independent
the poor - no money to spend
the bond - no freedom to buy and sell
Rev 13: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
In order to buy and sell, you need to fit in one of the 3 categories:
1) you have the mark
OR
2) you have the name of the beast
OR
3) you have the number of his name
Meaning even if you don't have the mark, you can still buy and sell as long as you have the name of the beast, which is every human being on earth.
The only place that mentions those who don't have the mark is Rev 20:4
Rev 20:4 And I saw high seats, and they were seated on them, and the right of judging was given to them: and I saw the souls of those who were put to death for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and those who did not give worship to the beast, or to his image, and had not his mark on their brows or on their hands; and they were living and ruling with Christ a thousand years.
So I think Rev 13:16 - 17 is also talking about the judgement.
Rev 20:22 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
When judgement is on earth, I don't see how anyone can still do business as usual to buy and sell.
zvezda:
--- Quote from: lareli on August 03, 2021, 12:35:23 PM ---
Afterward getting the shot I had a pretty intense depression for a couple weeks. The depression has lessened but it is still heavy.
Now with talk about booster shots, I’m not going to wait for the next vaccine mandate. I can see the writing on the wall and I’m praying and looking for another job. If it’s Gods will.
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I saw a lot of videos that show people's bodies became magnetic after receiving the jabs, not sure if I should believe that, I am curious if this also happens to you.
https://banned.video/watch?id=60bdda4c67e7d26dfad01834
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9gGUIRrlfyeo/
from NIH:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24715289/
If there will ever be a booster jab mandatory, I suppose you can ask your doctor to issue an exemption due to vaccine anxiety?
John9362:
Hi zvezda,
You said:
A lot of people have died after taking the jabs, I don't see how they can buy and sell from six feet under.
Have I missed something ? Where did anybody say anything about the dead going shopping ? :)
In Sydney Australia the vaccines are free and now recommend for kids as young as 12
You also said:
jab or no jab, some people already can't buy and sell................ok so we are already partially there
the small - kids are not financial independent .......................one doesn't need money if it's free
the poor - no money to spend.............................one doesn't need money if it's free
the bond - no freedom to buy and sell.............sorry I'm confused the vaccines are free for everyone whether in bond or free.
If the goal for the beasts is to vaccinate the world money is not an issue
John9362:
Five years imprisonment and/or a $66,600 fine for refusing coronavirus vaccination?
From Australia, I'm watching the fast-tracked development of coronavirus vaccines with mounting concern.
Under the Australian Biosecurity Act 2015, refusers of coronavirus vaccination[1] in Australia could be at risk of five years imprisonment and/or a $66,600 fine.[2] [3]
This emergency power has been active since March 2020, and has been extended to December 2020 [4], with the potential for unlimited extensions.[5]
It's possible this emergency power could be extended until a coronavirus vaccine is available, and that people in Australia could be under duress to have coronavirus vaccination, i.e. at risk of imprisonment and/or a huge fine, for a virus which is not a threat to most people under 70.[6]
We need to talk about this...
References:
1. Biosecurity Act 2015. Australian Government Department of Health - Listed Human Diseases (page last updated 21 September 2020): https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/ohp-bios... (Accessed 30 October 2020.)
2. Biosecurity Act 2015 -C2020C00127 https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C2020C00127 (Accessed 30 October 2020.)
3. Notice of Indexation of the Penalty Unit Amount, Attorney-General, dated 14 May 2020. -F2020N00061 https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2020N00061 (Accessed 30 October 2020.)
4. Human Biosecurity Emergency Period Extended By Three Months. Media Release, Ministers Department of Health, 3 September 2020: https://www.health.gov.au/ministers/the-hon-greg-hunt-mp/media/human-bio... (Accessed 30 October 2020.)
5. COVID-19 Legislative response - Human Biosecurity Emergency Declaration Explainer. Parliament of Australia. Posted 19/03/2020 by Howard Maclean & Karen Elphick: https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parlia... (Accessed 30 October 2020.)
5. Why do we need a vaccine for Covid-19? Elizabeth Hart, BMJ rapid response, 1 September 2020: https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3258/rr-9
Footnotes to references:
1. Human coronavirus with pandemic potential (e.g. COVID-19), is included as a 'Listed Human Disease' under the Biosecurity Act 2015.
2. See the Biosecurity Act 2015, Chapter 2 - Managing biosecurity risks: human health, Part 3 - Managing risks to human health: human biosecurity control orders, Division 2 - Imposing human biosecurity control orders on individuals, Subdivision C - When an individual is required to comply with a biosecurity measure, 74 When individual is required to comply with a biosecurity measure (1) (e) section 92 (vaccination or treatment) and (2) The individual is required to comply with the measure only if: (a) the individual consents to the measure; or (b) the Director of Human Biosecurity has given a directive for the individual to comply with the measure in accordance with paragraph 72(5)(a)...(etc...), and Note 1: A person who fails to comply with a biosecurity measure that the person is required to comply with may commit an offence (see section 107) - see Division 4 - Other provisions relating to human biosecurity control orders, Subdivision C - Miscellaneous, 107 Offence for failing to comply with a human biosecurity control order...Penalty: Imprisonment for 5 years or 300 penalty units, or both.
3 A 'penalty unit' is $222 under Commonwealth law, multiplied by 300 equals $66,600
4 (to reference 5) "...The Governor-General may extend a declaration indefinitely (with each extension being for no longer than three months) if the Health Minister remains satisfied that the conditions that required a declaration of a human biosecurity emergency continue".
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