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Salvation, A process? Your thoughts?
lilitalienboi16:
So many christians and christendom always proclaim that to be "saved" all you have to do is believe on Jesus, or say the sinners prayer and what not. But isn't it much more? Here is what i have come up with, and anyone feel free to correct me, or add. I am still a babe and learning much! So please if i'm off on something don't hesitate to correct me.
The First step is being called;
For many are called, (Matthew 22:14)
The second part is being chosen.
but few are chosen. (Matthew 22:14)
The Third step is remaining faithfull.
and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. (Revelation 17:14)
The last and final step is to be an overcomer! This i know is my ultimate goal in life.
Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Revelation 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.
Revelation 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Revelation 21:7 "He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Is not this the process of salvation? Isn't it much more then a simple prayer, or believing Christ died for us?
I couldn't be wrong, so someone please if i am give me a heads up. I know there is so much more to this, and that Judgement has begun at the House of God.
So before we can ever attain all this we must be put through the Lake of Fire.
Anyway anyone add whatever you want! Let us ALL learn something from this, God willing.
In Christ,
Alex
Laren:
I agree, it is a process, a continuing process.
1Jo 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
1Jo 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
1Pe 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold thatperisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honor and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
1Pe 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
2Pe 1:5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
2Pe 1:6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
2Pe 1:7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
2Pe 1:8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2Pe 1:9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
2Pe 1:10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
2Pe 1:11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
RobRoyal:
Totally agree, I think most Christians have the question wrong. Instead of "am I saved?' the question should be "how much have I saved?" 1 Corinthians 3:15-20 talks about that, how much of what I do in a day is just wood hay and stubble which will be burned up on "the Day" and how much is "gold silver and costly stones", my "treasures in heaven" as Jesus put it in Matthew 6:20. How much of me of what I think of as "me" is going to be left after it meets with His "consuming fire"? Precious little I imagine, but I still have time for Him to change and mould me by His spirit. And after reading Rays "Lake of Fire" series I am convinced it is better to let Him do it here on earth through "life's firey trials" rather than on that "Day". "Judgement is to start now in the house of God" the scripture says. (can someone help me with a reference there?) I think that's why I so often mistake blessings for curses.
God bless all'
Rob
ned:
What is salvation?
I used to think that "saved" meant being saved from going into hell.
After God opened my eyes, I pondered what might "save" mean. Saved from what if there is no hell? As I looked through scripture, I was pointed to the evil generation. Or more basically, saved from being bound to this world; where Satan is the prince, running to and fro.
It amazes me how many millions of people (2 billion) actually believe what church teaches them; that being saved means being saved from going to hell, if they took the time to verify what they're told, they would read what the bible means when it speaks about "being saved".
Luk 1:71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hands of all that hate us;
Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Gal 1:4 Who gave himself for our sins, that He might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father.
Because we know Jesus, He in us, we in Him, we are saved from this evil generation. No longer part of it, foreigners on the outside looking in.
To tie this in with your original post, Alex, the first step; "being called". These are the one's who have said the simple prayer .
Even though they THINK they are saved from hell, really are in a sense saved from this evil generation in their OWN perception. They see life is better for them than the non-believer because they perceive they have more (spiritually) than the average fellow, they perceive they (alone with all other believers only) are going to heaven, and so their life means more (to them). Carnal.
But they do not know step 2 (chosen), step 3 (faithful) or step 4 (overcoming).
Yet.
Much more to be said on this topic, I'm sure.
Looking forward.
Marie
ned:
--- Quote from: RobRoyal on August 25, 2006, 01:35:32 AM --- "Judgement is to start now in the house of God" the scripture says. (can someone help me with a reference there?) I think that's why I so often mistake blessings for curses. God bless all' Rob
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1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them thay obey not the gospel of God?
Isa 10:12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath performed his whole work upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria and the glory of his high looks.
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