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Did They Find Sodom? Maybe?
ralph:
--- Quote from: indianabob on September 29, 2021, 02:01:37 AM ---I would respectfully disagree with the video in that it attributes the destruction to a meteor rather than the power of God to rain down fire at His word. They still want to make it a "natural" event or coincidence rather than one directed by Almighty God. Of course we know better.
How does a tree grow when you plant a seed? Does God directly intervene to make it grow or is all the information already present within the seed so that it grows naturally when certain conditions are met? Just because something happens naturally does not mean the power of God isn't present.
--- Quote from: ZekeSr on September 28, 2021, 02:56:33 PM ---It's just another interesting possibility. While we must always depend on faith, I find it quite fascinating that science keeps finding additional evidence that the historical accounts within the Holy Scriptures are more likely to be accurate than fable.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/meteor-destroyed-ancient-city-likely-inspired-bible-tale-of-sodom-study-finds/
Mike
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AwesomeSavior:
Here is another biblical archaeological video, not regarding S & G, but the location of Mt. Sinai in Arabia as mentioned by Paul in Galatians 4:25. The video is produced by babylonians, but there is no teaching, just interesting archaeology discoveries of that time period:
https://youtu.be/n_VQ7rG638w
indianabob:
Hi Ralph,
Just my own view.
All is of God, even the things that seem "natural" that we take for granted in our daily lives.
A system of human reproduction, sperm and egg, seems natural in a sense, but the new life that is generated is determined by God.
In similar manner a seed of a plant once planted is dead and needs to be resurrected by God's power.
In other words, if God had not and is not willing it to happen it would not happen.
God created and God sustains all. God is IN everything.
Please explore this idea a little more if any are interested.
Thanks, Bob
--- Quote from: ralph on October 03, 2021, 09:25:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: indianabob on September 29, 2021, 02:01:37 AM ---I would respectfully disagree with the video in that it attributes the destruction to a meteor rather than the power of God to rain down fire at His word. They still want to make it a "natural" event or coincidence rather than one directed by Almighty God. Of course we know better.
How does a tree grow when you plant a seed? Does God directly intervene to make it grow or is all the information already present within the seed so that it grows naturally when certain conditions are met? Just because something happens naturally does not mean the power of God isn't present.
--- Quote from: ZekeSr on September 28, 2021, 02:56:33 PM ---It's just another interesting possibility. While we must always depend on faith, I find it quite fascinating that science keeps finding additional evidence that the historical accounts within the Holy Scriptures are more likely to be accurate than fable.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/meteor-destroyed-ancient-city-likely-inspired-bible-tale-of-sodom-study-finds/
Mike
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ralph:
--- Quote from: indianabob on October 04, 2021, 10:44:23 AM ---Hi Ralph,
Just my own view.
All is of God, even the things that seem "natural" that we take for granted in our daily lives.
A system of human reproduction, sperm and egg, seems natural in a sense, but the new life that is generated is determined by God.
In similar manner a seed of a plant once planted is dead and needs to be resurrected by God's power.
In other words, if God had not and is not willing it to happen it would not happen.
God created and God sustains all. God is IN everything.
Please explore this idea a little more if any are interested.
Thanks, Bob
I agree with you Bro. Yes everything is determined by God and nothing happens outside of his will. I am simply questioning "when" God determines these things. Was everything prepared in advance to play out seemingly on its own or does God intervene in this age to effectuate everything? However he created and does these things, it’s still amazing.
What causes me to look into these things is not just curiosity. It’s mainly because of this scripture:
Rom 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse
I search these things not to in any way diminish God' power. I search and question these things because I want to more deeply understand him.
If a meteor explodes at a specific time over a specific place, it's still God that did that, even if it took billions of years for it to happen. Just trying to understand. He has me locked in on this, especially after reading your reference to the seed and revisiting John 12:24. Much love.
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--- Quote from: indianabob on September 29, 2021, 02:01:37 AM ---I would respectfully disagree with the video in that it attributes the destruction to a meteor rather than the power of God to rain down fire at His word. They still want to make it a "natural" event or coincidence rather than one directed by Almighty God. Of course we know better.
How does a tree grow when you plant a seed? Does God directly intervene to make it grow or is all the information already present within the seed so that it grows naturally when certain conditions are met? Just because something happens naturally does not mean the power of God isn't present.
--- Quote from: ZekeSr on September 28, 2021, 02:56:33 PM ---It's just another interesting possibility. While we must always depend on faith, I find it quite fascinating that science keeps finding additional evidence that the historical accounts within the Holy Scriptures are more likely to be accurate than fable.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/meteor-destroyed-ancient-city-likely-inspired-bible-tale-of-sodom-study-finds/
Mike
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indianabob:
Hi again Ralph,
Here is a general idea of what I think is God's plan for HIS people, the earth and the universe.
Please comment if you wish.
Bob
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Christians talk about God having a plan, but an honest consideration of God’s performance to date (from the orthodox viewpoint) raises legitimate questions about this plan:
What sort of planner is God if His creatures can foil His intentions? What pall does such a situation cast upon God’s vaunted omniscience and omnipotence? From the moment of Eve’s desire to partake of the fruit, to the darkness of the cross, to the depths of today’s wickedness, mankind has scuttled God’s so-called plan.
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We are led to believe that God never intended events to turn out as they have.
According to traditional teaching, the Almighty Sovereign God of the universe is reduced—by His own creatures—to the ignominious role of a celestial fix-it boy. And if Satan and his human minions have derailed God’s plans against His will, as traditional teaching say they have, what happens to our eternal security? How can we know that God will keep us if He has a track record of losing to the wily serpent?
In truth, God operates everything in accord with the counsel of His own will (Ephesians 1:11). Nothing has ever happened which was not in perfect accord with God’s plan and intention. All is out of God, through God, and for God (Romans 11:36). And what is God’s plan? What is the purpose of the eons? This:
To head up the universe in His Son, Christ Jesus (Ephesians 1:10-12).
To reconcile the universe to Himself, through Christ, making peace through the blood of Christ’s cross (Colossians 1:20).
Why? So that, at the consummation of the eons), God will be All in all (1 Corinthians 15:22-28).
May that day be coming soon for the good of all of us who believe and trust our savior.
Ole Bob
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