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Will we ever see The Father?
Anjel Uriel:
I know He is invisible but I took that as in the physical realm. I made a long post before explaining my reasoning with scriptures that I believe we will see Him when we are in The Spirit realm with spiritual bodies, but I accidentally deleted it and it’s a hassle to rewrite all again. But to sum it up, I believe we will see Him when we are in the spiritual realm because if I understand correctly, spirit can see flesh but flesh can’t see spirit. However, I want to know what ye think.
ralph:
We can see the Father with spiritual eyes right now if we see Christ with spiritual eyes as they are one.
John 14:9
9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
Anjel Uriel:
--- Quote from: ralph on April 22, 2022, 04:29:14 PM ---We can see the Father with spiritual eyes right now if we see Christ with spiritual eyes as they are one.
John 14:9
9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
--- End quote ---
Hi Ralph, I understand that because like you said and pointed out in the Scripture "He who has seen Christ has seen The Father". But, I'm talking in the sense of when we are resurrected. For example, we live right now with Christ because He is with us always however, we know that is not the same as when He returns to earth and we are in The Kingdom. Likewise, we see The Father and Christ now in The Scriptures but because we are in a physical realm He is invisible to our eyes. When we have spiritual eyes not only in our mind like now but when our body is also spiritual, will we see Him with our bodily spiritual eyes? We know we will see Christ as He is but will that also apply to The Father?
indianabob:
--- Quote from: Anjel Uriel on April 22, 2022, 04:51:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: ralph on April 22, 2022, 04:29:14 PM ---We can see the Father with spiritual eyes right now if we see Christ with spiritual eyes as they are one.
John 14:9
9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
--- End quote ---
Hi Ralph, I understand that because like you said and pointed out in the Scripture "He who has seen Christ has seen The Father". But, I'm talking in the sense of when we are resurrected. For example, we live right now with Christ because He is with us always however, we know that is not the same as when He returns to earth and we are in The Kingdom. Likewise, we see The Father and Christ now in The Scriptures but because we are in a physical realm He is invisible to our eyes. When we have spiritual eyes not only in our mind like now but when our body is also spiritual, will we see Him with our bodily spiritual eyes? We know we will see Christ as He is but will that also apply to The Father?
--- End quote ---
Almighty
Quick answer to will we be able to see the Father GOD. NO.
It is surmised that almighty GOD has no form or shape or a communication instrument.
Lord Jesus has all of those in his celestial existence as will we, but Father God may/does not.
This is just my view and I have no evidence to share.
Indiana Bob
Anjel Uriel:
--- Quote from: indianabob on April 22, 2022, 08:06:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: Anjel Uriel on April 22, 2022, 04:51:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: ralph on April 22, 2022, 04:29:14 PM ---We can see the Father with spiritual eyes right now if we see Christ with spiritual eyes as they are one.
John 14:9
9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
--- End quote ---
Hi Ralph, I understand that because like you said and pointed out in the Scripture "He who has seen Christ has seen The Father". But, I'm talking in the sense of when we are resurrected. For example, we live right now with Christ because He is with us always however, we know that is not the same as when He returns to earth and we are in The Kingdom. Likewise, we see The Father and Christ now in The Scriptures but because we are in a physical realm He is invisible to our eyes. When we have spiritual eyes not only in our mind like now but when our body is also spiritual, will we see Him with our bodily spiritual eyes? We know we will see Christ as He is but will that also apply to The Father?
--- End quote ---
Almighty
Quick answer to will we be able to see the Father GOD. NO.
It is surmised that almighty GOD has no form or shape or a communication instrument.
Lord Jesus has all of those in his celestial existence as will we, but Father God may/does not.
This is just my view and I have no evidence to share.
Indiana Bob
--- End quote ---
Hi Indiana Bob, I get your reasoning and you might very well be right. The reason I believe we will is because we know Jesus Himself did see the Father and when we are raised we are supposed to be like Him. Also The Son said that The Father loves us just as He loves Jesus (John 17:23) and if just as means in the same manner/equal amount. Then I don’t see why He wouldn’t also let us see Him, if He spared not His Own Son and will give us all things freely (Romans 8:32) then I don’t see why He would withhold that same blessing He gave to His Son. However, it may be that seeing The Father is the upmost thing that sets Jesus apart from The other children of God along with being The Firstborn and The Lord of all creation. I guess we’ll have to wait until our Resurrection to find out but regardless we have already received more than we can ask for and we will gain even more than we can imagine.
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