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ralph:
--- Quote from: Ricky on April 22, 2022, 07:45:40 PM ---The scriptures you put up have nothing to do with what I have said.
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I believe they have everything to do with what you said. You are arguing against God. You are putting his will, the way he does things, into question as if his methods are wrong or evil.
The vessels of wrath, the ones who murder, rape and start wars, vessels that we could have very well been had God not been merciful, are doing exactly what they were created to do. We being vessels of mercy, would not understand mercy if there weren’t vessels of wrath. We’d have no idea what great evil and darkness we are being delivered from. We wouldn’t understand and appreciate good if there wasn’t evil. We wouldn't understand and appreciate light if there wasn’t darkness.
I can think of other pertinent scripture like the book of Job, parable of the sower. Take heed. This bitterness will consume you. I know, I was there not too long ago.
Ricky:
I am not saying it is wrong or evil when God does what He does, He's GOD He can do whatever he likes, whenever He likes or however He likes. Me wanting to know the answer to why he did it that way is me trying to prepare myself for whatever might be coming next. But that would probably be going against His will also. If I can't find the correct answer to this, I will lose my interest in this it seems to make Him happy when you go against His will because He is in charge of you doing that anyways. If doing good is going against His will I am going to end up in jail because I need to be evil to learn what it is and how it feels. Yup I will believe that so I don't go against His will again.
Wanda:
--- Quote from: Ricky on April 24, 2022, 11:31:02 AM ---I am not saying it is wrong or evil when God does what He does, He's GOD He can do whatever he likes, whenever He likes or however He likes. Me wanting to know the answer to why he did it that way is me trying to prepare myself for whatever might be coming next. But that would probably be going against His will also. If I can't find the correct answer to this, I will lose my interest in this it seems to make Him happy when you go against His will because He is in charge of you doing that anyways. If doing good is going against His will I am going to end up in jail because I need to be evil to learn what it is and how it feels. Yup I will believe that so I don't go against His will again.
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Whether we do good acts or evil ones we are doing God's will, so there is never a possibility we can go against his will.
I believe the need to know why he does things the way he does is what inspires us to seek to understand him more fully, and that is also God's will.
Do we need to murder someone to understand the evil of it?
This scripture is one that helped me in my desire to understand many troubling things.
James 1:5
5 If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him.
And most importantly is the very good purpose for all of our human trials and suffering.
Jeremiah 29:11
‘For I know the plans I have for you,’ declares the Lord, ‘plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.’
Roman's 8:18
For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
Ricky:
Wanda, Thank-you so much, you have given me what I needed to understand something. Jer. 29,11 Does that mean after you die and and now in the spirit world with God. Ricky
Wanda:
--- Quote from: Ricky on April 24, 2022, 06:03:38 PM ---Wanda, Thank-you so much, you have given me what I needed to understand something. Jer. 29,11 Does that mean after you die and and now in the spirit world with God. Ricky
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Yes Ricky that's what I understand. All of our trials and suffering benifit us now, in ways that move us even closer to seeing the hope of the future we have been promised.
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