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ralph:
I can definitely relate to the ADHD and intrusive thoughts.  Iíve been battling those for 30 years, although things have greatly improved.  And it wasnít because of anything I did.   The change started when I began to feel sickened by my thoughts and behaviors, fell to my knees and begged God to deliver me from them.  I still battle with these things but often when a thought creeps in, I am able to stop myself from entertaining it, whereas before, I would almost go into a trance meditating on it.  Here is a good thought that just creeped in.


2 Corinthians 10:3-6

3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, 5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, 6 and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.


P.S.  You need to stop blasting your brain with social media and video games bro.  I was there too.  Do you have any hobbies?  Mine are art, music and I am learning Spanish.  Very therapeutic. 



--- Quote from: Anjel Uriel on May 19, 2022, 02:43:45 AM ---Hi Ralph, Iíve done something similar but itís when I fall asleep to ASMR of people reading the gospels. I find that it helps me immensely to relax. Hearing Christís words while a soothing voice reads them makes me sleep like a baby. But, I think I might implement your method of meditation because I need my carnal mind to stop wandering. Especially, when it comes to intrusive thoughts. Iíll be thinking of Jesus and out of nowhere here comes the evil thoughts or just doing something like taking out the trash and here comes the carnality blindsiding me. Iíll start to think deeply on The Lord's Word since it seems like the Scriptural form of meditation. Which will be to grow closer to Him and also practice focusing on something specific cause Iíve found that a lot of times people will be talking to me and mid conversation, Iíll space out and start daydreaming. To the point they have noticed and told me things like ďEarth to AnjelĒ, ďYo comebackĒ, ďAnjel, youíre going on a tripĒ. I think itís a combination of my ADHD and blasting my brain with social media and video games.



--- Quote from: ralph on May 19, 2022, 02:17:55 AM ---The only form of meditation that I personally do is at night when I listen to scriptures read aloud set to relaxing music.  That certainly helps tame my carnal mind.  Itís very difficult and rather uncomfortable I find, to wander while doing that.

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lareli:
I canít think of anything negative arising from daily meditation. What would be a reason to not implement this?

Anjel Uriel:

I quit playing video games around like 1 month ago. I have played sometimes on my phone but after a day of downloading the game, I delete it. It's been mostly easy, sometimes I get the urge to play them but unlike my other vice, it's pretty easy to resist. It's been a weird experience though, Ive been playing video games ever since I was a child, I think I was already playing them when I was 4. I quit because I realized I wasted my childhood and teen years inside a virtual world instead of making friends and having new experiences. I let my social skills deteriorate so badly that I'm a 21 year old hermit. The fact I take long to respond to messages and posts here despite doing nothing all day is proof of how much they have fried my brain and my ability to communicate with others. I saw everyone my age having social activities and would get sad so to numb the pain I would hop on an RPG to feel like I'm making progres instead of leveling up in real life.

So I quit and been feeling better but I inadvertently replaced my addiction with the bad habit of scrolling endlessly on social media, i.e. Instagram, Facebook and YouTube. I deleted the Instagram and Facebook app from my phone but I still hop on occasionally but I went from easily 2 hours daily to maybe 20-30 minutes weekly and every day I want to get on it less because it tempts me to sin (the most popular content on IG is mostly half naked women). I still use YouTube A LOT,  I know I need to reduce my consumption but I haven't gotten to that point yet.

In terms of hobbies, since quitting video games and IG/FB, I have gotten into reading, which I used to like as a kid but stopped because books aren't as stimulating as video games. I gotten into fitness and when I get the chance I'm getting in the gym. I like journaling because I get to express my creative side and I have been resurrecting my backyard with my dad and learning to grow food so you could say I also picked up gardening/agriculture.       




--- Quote from: ralph on May 19, 2022, 05:10:01 AM ---I can definitely relate to the ADHD and intrusive thoughts.  Iíve been battling those for 30 years, although things have greatly improved.  And it wasnít because of anything I did.   The change started when I began to feel sickened by my thoughts and behaviors, fell to my knees and begged God to deliver me from them.  I still battle with these things but often when a thought creeps in, I am able to stop myself from entertaining it, whereas before, I would almost go into a trance meditating on it.  Here is a good thought that just creeped in.


2 Corinthians 10:3-6

3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, 5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, 6 and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.


P.S.  You need to stop blasting your brain with social media and video games bro.  I was there too.  Do you have any hobbies?  Mine are art, music and I am learning Spanish.  Very therapeutic. 


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Anjel Uriel:

Hi lareli, the reason I asked is because when I hear about meditation, there's multiple viewpoints. There's the scientific viewpoint which is that daily mindful meditation helps people reduce overthinking and increases presence which basically means staying in the present moment, not daydreaming or mind wandering (which happens to me on a consistent basis). So I would think there's nothing wrong with it until you reach the religious folks. The pagans say that meditation is a technique to clear your mind of thoughts so you can reach enlightenment, open the chakras and connect with "The Universe" as well as reaching inner peace. The christians say that meditation is a ritual to worship false gods and practicing it is engaging in heathenism as well "learning the way of the nations" and that you shouldn't empty your mind of thoughts but fill it with The Word of God. That's why I'm conflicted if I should implement it or not, I'm not trying to open some chakra or worship false gods, but be able to stay more in the present moment and not get distracted so easily. But, I don't want to engage in something which could be evil so I asked here since multiple heads are better than one.


--- Quote from: lareli on May 20, 2022, 05:08:45 PM ---I canít think of anything negative arising from daily meditation. What would be a reason to not implement this?

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Porter:
I don't personally see anything wrong with meditating on good things, especially if they set us on the race to win Christ. Though, I do wonder (quite a bit, I may add) how much our preconceived ideas (after coming out of Babylon) on what is right and wrong are spiritually in line with the Spirit.

I remember Ray once said something like Ė ďa person can be in a wheelchair or bed and still come into union with God through His spiritĒ. That tells me that whatever is right or wrong comes out of the heart and mind. If I do outward physical things that, I think, make me holy inside, but my heart and mind are dark, what's the point?

Rom 7:25  I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, with my mind I myself am a slave to the law of God, but with my flesh, to the law of sin.

If I gain the world's approval, what profit is it? According to the world, I'm a dead beat good for nothing sinner. I never do things that are right in their eyes. Maybe God wouldn't have it any other way. Perhaps God did this to humble me so that He could exalt me later. If what Paul said is true, then I should glory in my weakness's. 

We start by cleaning the inside and the outside will follow. I know you know these things, Anjel, so it's good to encourage one another with these words.

Mat. 23:26 First clean the inside of the cup, so the outside of it may also become clean.

Coming from one socially inept hermit to another. ;)

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