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jeetkunejimi:

--- Quote from: Extol on June 24, 2022, 02:44:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on June 23, 2022, 09:34:13 PM ---Isa 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

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Not that I'm arguing for a flat earth, but this verse doesn't prove the earth is a sphere. Flat earthers believe the earth is a circle too; just a disc, rather than a globe.

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Correct 'Extol' and if God's sits atop of it looking down at us as grasshoppers if it were a sphere He was looking down at from on high He wouldn't be able to see us all as the horizon would be falling away from Him 8inches for every square mile ;).

jeetkunejimi:

--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on June 26, 2022, 01:31:57 AM ---Many years ago I made a joke on the forum about having been up in one of those new-fangled aeroplanes and seeing for myself that the earth was round, but round like a pizza.  It didn't dawn on me at the time new as I was, that there might be those who could understand and accept that the Lake of Fire was niether a lake nor fire but were so committed to biblical literalism on matters touching an understanding of the physical world.  I've regretted it ever since.

Just me talking, but it seems to take a near equal measure of pride and gullibility to reject proven facts known even by the ancients to suck down YouTube videos.  Yes you're being lied to, but it's not by "the establishment".  I'm convinced beyond unconvincing that this modern spin on "flat earth" was cooked up by a perverted mind for the sole purpose of seeing how many folks he could make fools of.  The rest are copycats and the conned.

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With all due respect, how much have you bothered to research the subject? Do you know about such things as; crepuscular rays, Coriolis effect, convection, convergence, 8" per square mile drop due to curvature on a ball earth but we don't see it, parabolic arcs on rockets instead of vertical thrust to reach escape velocity from supposed gravity etc, etc. Maybe you should take a deeper look into it. It's up to you. ;)

jeetkunejimi:

--- Quote from: ralph on June 26, 2022, 06:04:56 AM ---" I'm convinced beyond unconvincing that this modern spin on "flat earth" was cooked up by a perverted mind for the sole purpose of seeing how many folks he could make fools of.  The rest are copycats and the conned."

I would tend to agree with that bro.

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There is no "MODERN SPIN" on the earth being geocentric, the earth was believed a plane for centuries and never fully went away. Copernicus & Co (all free masons) came up with pushing the heliocentric model as a new age swerve from God. The Atheistic 'Bright's' of the enlightenment thought that they new better, and they set about trying to do away with God. It's all about doing away with God Almighty (YHWH) to them.

Porter:
How can someone “do away with God” if they don't even know Him? The Church does believe He exists, but He is not their God UNTIL He is their God.

Luk 10:21  In that same hour He rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and said, "I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and the learned and have revealed them to infants. Yes, Father, because this was Your good pleasure.
Luk 10:22  All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and who the Father is except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son desires to reveal Him."
If Jesus came into one of these God denying churches to preach today, they probably wouldn't even know it was Him, and they'd throw Him out to boot. Those that did believe Jesus was the Son of God, killed Him.

Atheists ain't got nothing on those that honor Him with only their lips. Since we're doing conspiracy theories right now, here's one. The Church has made more atheists than the atheists themselves. 

Dave in Tenn:
An oblate spheroid is the shape a fluid, otherwise spherical object assumes by rotating on it's primary axis.  It is absolutely not pear shaped.  If it is even remotely pear shaped, it is so little pearshaped that nobody looking at it with their eyes would describe it that way. The earth is an oblate spheoid because it is "fluid" taken as a whole, though not nearly so fluid as a mass of water or air.  And it rotates on it's primary axis.  So it is almost a sphere, but not quite.  So eyes on photos from space perceive it as "spherical" and absolutely not pear shaped.  It is a bit larger around the equator than it is pole to pole, and the southern hemisphere is slightly larger than the northernmost northern hemisphere. 

You know who figured that out?  Scientists.

I get a kick out of people telling me to do research who also denigrate NASA and other scientific establishments.  "Open your eyes!  But not to that!".  Pride.

Though the question wasn't posed to me, I would hugely rather get my understanding of the natural world from an atheist than from a biblical fundamentalist.  In fact I get more SPIRITUAL insight from genuine scientific sources than I did in over a dozen years of Sunday School and three services a week for over two dozen conscious years.  I wish you the same freedom.

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