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Sign of the Son of Man
ralph:
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--- Quote from: ralph on April 09, 2023, 01:15:11 AM ---"And I will give MIRACLES IN THE HEAVENS above, And signs on the earth, Blood and fire and pillars of smoke, The sun shall be turned to darkness, And the moon to blood (2:30-31), BEFORE the coming of the DAY OF THE LORD, the great and fearful day" (2:30-31)."
I believe Ray spoke about this in one of his videos. The Sun, which is a symbol of God, no longer gives its light. The moon, which reflects the light of the sun, a symbol of the church, turned to blood when it began to murder God’s people, i.e., the stoning of Stephen.
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Yes, I remember that also, Ralph. To be honest, it always kind of confused me because Ray said or implied it was a prophecy of a literal event. I mean I can see it that way too, so maybe it was one of them multi layered prophecies, where it's a parable as well. Because I can definitely see the parable too. However, wouldn't this go against another of Ray's statements where he said, “parables are never literally true, but they are always spiritually true”? This is why I'm kind of confused.
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The stoning of Stephen was a literal event. Adding, to me--since His elect were chosen from the "foundation of the world"--"we" needn't wait until our eyes are opened for this persecution to commence. "We've" lived it in Babylon. We just hadn't seen it yet--and to whatever degree we may have seen it, we didn't recognize it for what it was, and we may have even participated in it both towards ourselves and others. Saul stood by at the stoning of Stephen. Before he was Paul--but not before he was chosen.
If he's opened our eyes, that TOO (the un-closing) is a literal event--a thing that happened.
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Amen. Well said, Dave.
Am I correct in saying that throughout the centuries, millions of people have been murdered, spiritually speaking, by the Church through the teaching of false doctrines? Not to mention the hatred human beings have toward one another. And it will only get worse.
1 John 3:15
15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
2 Timothy 3:13
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
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