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Porter:
--- Quote from: Dynamo54 on October 17, 2023, 08:05:32 PM ---
I don’t have any answers except that I don’t know…and therefore must wait and trust in Elohim. I am like Octoberose, heart sick and confused how I should be viewing the events. I want retribution to the terrorists, but God says vengeance is His! What do I do about that?
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I think this is the passage you're referring to?
Rom 12:19 Friends, do not avenge yourselves; instead, leave room for His wrath [Greek: desire]. For it is written: Vengeance belongs to Me; I will repay, says the Lord.
Rom 12:20 But If your enemy is hungry, feed him. If he is thirsty, give him something to drink. For in so doing you will be heaping fiery coals on his head.
Rom 12:21 Do not be conquered by evil, but conquer evil with good.
Paul in the passage above is quoting and interpreting the 'Song of Moses' found in Deut. 32:35. God's idea of “judgment” is to feed His enemies when they are hungry. God's idea of “vengeance” is to give His enemies something to drink when they are thirsty. And God's idea of repaying His enemies is by conquering them with good, not evil.
I suppose this next passage is as good a second witness as any.
Luk 6:35 But love [Greek: agapao] your enemies, do what is good, and lend, expecting nothing in return. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High. For He is gracious to the ungrateful and evil.
Luk 6:36 Be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful.
ralph:
--- Quote from: Porter on October 18, 2023, 07:33:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dynamo54 on October 17, 2023, 08:05:32 PM ---
I don’t have any answers except that I don’t know…and therefore must wait and trust in Elohim. I am like Octoberose, heart sick and confused how I should be viewing the events. I want retribution to the terrorists, but God says vengeance is His! What do I do about that?
--- End quote ---
I think this is the passage you're referring to?
Rom 12:19 Friends, do not avenge yourselves; instead, leave room for His wrath [Greek: desire]. For it is written: Vengeance belongs to Me; I will repay, says the Lord.
Rom 12:20 But If your enemy is hungry, feed him. If he is thirsty, give him something to drink. For in so doing you will be heaping fiery coals on his head.
Rom 12:21 Do not be conquered by evil, but conquer evil with good.
Paul in the passage above is quoting and interpreting the 'Song of Moses' found in Deut. 32:35. God's idea of “judgment” is to feed His enemies when they are hungry. God's idea of “vengeance” is to give His enemies something to drink when they are thirsty. And God's idea of repaying His enemies is by conquering them with good, not evil.
I suppose this next passage is as good a second witness as any.
Luk 6:35 But love [Greek: agapao] your enemies, do what is good, and lend, expecting nothing in return. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High. For He is gracious to the ungrateful and evil.
Luk 6:36 Be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful.
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Amen. The Lord has given us clear instructions. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.
Musterseed:
Hi Porter
I found this about Matt.24- 28.. Wherever the corpse is , the vultures will gather.
Match Luke 17:37 and Job 39:30.
First of all , I believe Ray had said that birds/ fowl are a symbol for evil spirits.
Example… calling a ravenous bird from the east scripture from Isaiah. This Ray said
is talking about an evil man , he calls him a bird. You can read the transcript or listen
to the audio End Time Prophecies. This teaching of Rays also includes lots of future
prophecy. And yes some that are happening now. Ok. Back to the birds.
Another scripture is Rev. 18:2 and Zep.2:14.
Ok so here is what Ray says in the Rapture Paper regarding the vultures.
Israel was granted lots in the promised land. When God resurrects Israel
they will once again return to their designated lots and Daniel will have his lot.
See Daniel 12:13) waiting period.
One obvious reason for this wait has to do with the condition of the land itself.
We read of the vultures feasting on dead men’s carcasses. The filth and stench
will be terrible. It may take weeks or months to clean up the land suitable for possession and habitation before anyone actually stands in his lot.
Picking us clean spiritually sounds like the vultures of Babylon eating our hearts and minds. But I’m wondering if this is speaking of the phiysical. We are
burned clean in God’s firey grace and brimstone. Gehenna Spiritual Fire.
Anyway , I would like to discuss this Daniel 12:13 … happy is he who will tarry
scripture but it will have to WAIT (pun intended) until later. I gotta rest my
old fingers.
Dynamo54, yes you must wait and trust in God, we all must wait and trust in our
Sovereign God who does all things according to the council of His own will.
We must pray , Thy will be done on earth as in heaven.
As in heaven , what’s that mean? I think there’s scripture and Ray also spoke about
a pattern . I think it’s in Hebrews. I’m sure I heard Ray mention it. Anyone know where? I better slow down . One thing at a time.
God Bless you all and give us wisdom.
May the Lord cause you to increase and superabound in love for one another
and for all, even as we also for you, to establish your hearts unblamable
for you, in holiness in front of our God and Father, in the presence of our Lord Jesus
with all His saints.( 1 Thes. 3:12-13}
Come Lord Jesus. In Christ, Pamela
octoberose:
I want to say that I asked God to forgive me for my reaction to the people who did such unspeakable things in Israel. God is just and God will take care of it and one day all those who killed and raped will fervently ask God’s forgiveness. And all in Israel will see the fulfillment of Law that they have only seen in shadows and they will forgive and they will be forgiven. Sometimes it’s hard not to react as a human being because my cannel side feels one thing and a higher calling takes me another direction altogether. I expected chastisement and not your gentle response .
octoberose:
Should have said carnal. But you probably knew that. :0)
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