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[octoberose]

I only care if the church is scaring people because of hell -  and since I’m one of the few here who go to ‘church ‘ I can tell you end times do not  come up often where I am .
I also think that the New Testament speaks of  martyrs of the church and they didn’t become martyrs from getting their symbolic bodies killed .  Could these be people long dead and not in our future ? Yes.  Revelation was a vision - but that doesn’t make it untrue . We still wrestle with what it all means because it Is a vision. But I think what is ahead is overwhelming and difficult for many people .

[Porter]

When I think of the Church, I think of the entire body of Christ, regardless of where they are. I've seen many over the years on this very forum try to scare people about what is happening in the world. To worsen it, they use Jesus' parables in a literal sense to justify the fearmongering. Nevertheless, Jesus said that the many called and few chosen are to “grow together”.

[octoberose]

We have no need to dwell in fear here because we know that God will be All in all.  Why is fear needed ?  Is it fearmongering to believe that the transition from this eon to the next is difficult ?  I don’t think so.  Be prepared in season and out of season because the days are evil.