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Porter:
--- Quote from: octoberose on October 19, 2023, 01:16:44 AM --- Can you think of a parable in the OT that uses someones name ?
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Yes, pick a name, any name in the OT, as the story connected with it will most likely have some higher spiritual meaning to it.
--- Quote ---1Co 10:1 Now I want you to know, brothers, that our fathers were all under the cloud, all passed through the sea,
1Co 10:2 and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea.
1Co 10:3 They all ate the same spiritual food,
1Co 10:4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from a spiritual rock that followed them, and that rock was Christ.
1Co 10:5 But God was not pleased with most of them, for they were struck down in the desert.
1Co 10:6 Now these things became examples for us, so that we will not desire evil as they did.
1Co 10:7 Don't become idolaters as some of them were; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and got up to play.
1Co 10:8 Let us not commit sexual immorality as some of them did, and in a single day 23,000 people fell dead.
1Co 10:9 Let us not tempt Christ as some of them did, and were destroyed by snakes.
1Co 10:10 Nor should we complain as some of them did, and were killed by the destroyer.
1Co 10:11 Now these things happened to them as examples, and they were written as a warning to us, on whom the ends of the ages have come.
1Co 10:12 Therefore, whoever thinks he stands must be careful not to fall!
Rom 15:4 For whatever was written before was written for our instruction, so that through our endurance and through the encouragement of the Scriptures we may have hope.
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All the literal sins listed above that Israel committed have spiritual sins that are attached to them and are being committed by the Church in these “end times”.
https://bible-truths.com/twelve.htm Check out truth number 8 for a more detailed explanation from Ray.
Here's an email response from Ray regarding your question.
https://bible-truths.com/email16.htm
--- Quote ---Dear Samuel:
Thank you for your email and comments. Unfortunately, your arguments are just human, carnal arguments of the flesh with no Scriptural proof to back them up. Let me help you to follow things orderly and clearly and Scripturally:
[1] You state that Lazarus and the Rich man cannot be a parable because proper names are used. Is that supposed to be a "Scriptural PROOF," Samuel?
Here are some known parables with specific, particularly persons or personalities, but the question is, "Will you believe the Scriptures when I show you that you are wrong?
Satan.....................................................Mark 4:15
The SON of man..................................Matt. 13:37
The Devil..............................................God the Father
King David...........................................II Sam. 12:17
Aholah, and Aholibah..........................Ezek. 23:1-4
The Good Samaritan...........................Luke 10:30-37.
The Pharisee and the Tax Collector...Luke 18:9-14.
And he took up his PARABLE, and said, [1] BALAK, the king of [2] MOAB hath brought me from [3] ARAM, out of the mountains of the east, saying, come, curse me [4] JACOB and come defy [5] ISRAEL......Num. 23:7
There are FIVE proper names in just one verse of a parable!
[2] You say that Jesus did not say things like "There was a CERTAIN rich man" in His parables? Oh really?
The Parable of the Lost Coin:
"And He [Jesus] said, 'A CERTAIN man..." (Luke 15:11)
The Parable of the unjust Servant:
"And He [Jesus] said also unto his disciples, 'There was a CERTAIN rich man'..."
The Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus:
"There was a CERTAIN rich man..." (Luke 16:19)
There are THREE PARABLES IN A ROW that Jesus spoke using the term
* "A CERTAIN man..."
* "A CERTAIN rich man...." and
* "a CERTAIN rich man...." Certainly there is punishment and chastisement spoken of in this parable. I know of absolutely NO ONE (including myself) who teaches otherwise! Contrary to Christian teaching, it is not ETERNAL TORTURE, however.
What can I say, Samuel, your arguments are carnal human doctrines that have nothing to do with the Truth of the Scriptures. What is clear, Samuel, is that your proofs against Lazarus and the Rich man being a parable, actually prove that it IS A PARABLE!
May God be with you as you yield to His perfect will for your life,
Ray
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octoberose:
Porter, you must have the touch - how did you find all that ? Thank you so much.
Porter:
Rose, several years ago I downloaded all of Ray's papers, emails and additional teachings to my pc. I then installed an app called AstroGrep which allows me to search for specific keywords within a file, folder, and subfolders simply by right-clicking the folder the files are in. It works fairly well for the most part.
Dennis Vogel:
Some should remember you can Google the BT site and this forum using this syntax:
"search for text" (exact phrase with quotes or just all the words without quotes) site:bible-truths.com
Example: baptized water site:bible-truths.com
I use it all the time.
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