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Rom.8:20….. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly,
but by Him who has subjected the same in hope.

21… because the creature itself also shall be delivered from THE BONDAGE OF
CORRUPTION into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

Man was never immortal, neither was he incorruptible.
Not before Adam and Eve sinned . Not after. This is why Paul tells us
that .

1 Cor. 15 53…. For this CORRUPTIBLE must put on incorruption ,
and this MORTAL must put on immortality.

From the LOF 15, all caps Rays


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--- Quote from: octoberose on October 27, 2023, 12:11:16 PM ---No, not created perfect but death did not come into the world until sin came into the world.  ( Romans 5: 12.  Therefore, as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death passed until all men…..” )
And just to add something else to it,  Genesis 3- “ Look, the man has become as one of us, to know good and evil.  What if he stretches out his hand and takes also from the tree of life and eats, and lives forever? And Yahweh God sent him out from the garden of Eden….”

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Hi October,
So if the tree of life hadn't been tasted of yet, then he wasn't immortal yet.
But could he have taken of the tree of life first?
Or does that take a miracle from God to accomplish?

Plus if we think about it...even if he wasn't yet condemned for sin, he and Eve did have to eat for sustenance and breath oxygen to burn food for energy to function.
He or they still were just a "mechanical device" composed of matter and water and invested with the spirit of life and subject to die of starvation or suffocation.

Thanks for all the ideas, Bob

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This is my understanding:

He couldn't have taken from the tree of life first. The tree of life represents Christ and deathlessness (Gen 3:22 lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever, John 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever).

Every human being that has ever been born must first eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil to "become like one of Us, to know good and evil," before taking from the tree of life.

1 Corinthians 15:45-50

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

mike kyner:
I don't think we can say "if he had not..." as his eating of the fruit {at least in my opinion} that was part of the creation process

I agree Mike.  If it happened, it was supposed to happen. Just like everything else in life. A time and a purpose for everything under the sun (paraphrasing).


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