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Porter

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Re: Sowing Spiritual Seed
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2024, 09:09:54 PM »

In the spirit of laying my life down, I'm gonna stick my neck out a little. If that sounds dramatic, so be it.

Do these teachings mean anything?

2Co 6:14  Do not be mismatched with unbelievers. For what partnership is there between righteousness and lawlessness? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness?

Mat 6:22  "The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eye is good, your whole body will be full of light.
Mat 6:23  But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. So if the light within you is darkness--how deep is that darkness!
Mat 6:24  "No one can be a slave of two masters, since either he will hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot be slaves of God and of money.

Based on these teachings, these parables, is it possible that one can serve and obey the Old Testament while serving and obeying the New Testament? Don't think I havn't asked myself this question and applied it to myself, because I have. I had to ask myself because I don't trust my wisdom and reasoning enough to have confidence in myself.

We had to be naked before we could be clothed. We had to be blind before we could see. Likewise, we had to be dragged before we could walk with Jesus. Jesus could only be with us before He could be in us.

I hesitated a lot before commenting in the way I did here. I gave it a day hoping the desire would go away because I was afraid. Furthermore, I was afraid of being a hypocrite and a heretic among those whom Jesus loves.
I love discussing these things with you all because it's very encouraging. It's possible I'm not understanding some things correctly, as I've had that happen before.
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Luk 22:31  "Simon, Simon, look out! Satan has asked to sift you like wheat.
Luk 22:32  But I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail. And you, when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers."

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Re: Sowing Spiritual Seed
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2024, 09:53:03 PM »

In the spirit of laying my life down, I'm gonna stick my neck out a little. If that sounds dramatic, so be it.

Do these teachings mean anything?

2Co 6:14  Do not be mismatched with unbelievers. For what partnership is there between righteousness and lawlessness? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness?

Mat 6:22  "The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eye is good, your whole body will be full of light.
Mat 6:23  But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. So if the light within you is darkness--how deep is that darkness!
Mat 6:24  "No one can be a slave of two masters, since either he will hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot be slaves of God and of money.

Based on these teachings, these parables, is it possible that one can serve and obey the Old Testament while serving and obeying the New Testament? Don't think I havn't asked myself this question and applied it to myself, because I have. I had to ask myself because I don't trust my wisdom and reasoning enough to have confidence in myself.

We had to be naked before we could be clothed. We had to be blind before we could see. Likewise, we had to be dragged before we could walk with Jesus. Jesus could only be with us before He could be in us.

I hesitated a lot before commenting in the way I did here. I gave it a day hoping the desire would go away because I was afraid. Furthermore, I was afraid of being a hypocrite and a heretic among those whom Jesus loves.
I love discussing these things with you all because it's very encouraging. It's possible I'm not understanding some things correctly, as I've had that happen before.

Not only is it possible, but it is required.

We can’t live everything in the word of God outwardly in the physical sense, but we can and will live everything inwardly, spiritually, including the Old Testament.

Matthew 4:4
4 But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ” 

Jeremiah 31:33
33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

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Re: Sowing Spiritual Seed
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2024, 02:53:21 PM »

In the spirit of laying my life down, I'm gonna stick my neck out a little. If that sounds dramatic, so be it.

Do these teachings mean anything?

2Co 6:14  Do not be mismatched with unbelievers. For what partnership is there between righteousness and lawlessness? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness?

Mat 6:22  "The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eye is good, your whole body will be full of light.
Mat 6:23  But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. So if the light within you is darkness--how deep is that darkness!
Mat 6:24  "No one can be a slave of two masters, since either he will hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot be slaves of God and of money.

Based on these teachings, these parables, is it possible that one can serve and obey the Old Testament while serving and obeying the New Testament? Don't think I havn't asked myself this question and applied it to myself, because I have. I had to ask myself because I don't trust my wisdom and reasoning enough to have confidence in myself.

We had to be naked before we could be clothed. We had to be blind before we could see. Likewise, we had to be dragged before we could walk with Jesus. Jesus could only be with us before He could be in us.

I hesitated a lot before commenting in the way I did here. I gave it a day hoping the desire would go away because I was afraid. Furthermore, I was afraid of being a hypocrite and a heretic among those whom Jesus loves.
I love discussing these things with you all because it's very encouraging. It's possible I'm not understanding some things correctly, as I've had that happen before.

Not only is it possible, but it is required.

We can’t live everything in the word of God outwardly in the physical sense, but we can and will live everything inwardly, spiritually, including the Old Testament.

Matthew 4:4
4 But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ” 

Jeremiah 31:33
33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.


Jer. 31:33 is the blessing the house of Israel has to look forward to after our Lord Jesus has returned to govern the earth. May that day come soon.
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Re: Sowing Spiritual Seed
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2024, 05:34:08 PM »

Porter, your questions are all answered in three transcripts of Rays teaching.

Your question…. Can we obey the old while serving the new?
Answer is in THE MYTH OF FREE WILL EXPOSED,,,, LOF pt.15

Heading——- The Ten Commandments Are Spiritual, begin there.

For your scriptures of Matt.6:22-24
Light and darkness, see transcript Guilty of all.

And for 2 Cor. 6:14….. Ray gives an excellent teaching in transcript on Love
and this actually ties in to the Matt.6 scriptures also.

May God grant you the gold nuggets you are digging for.

Love in Christ, Pamela





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Re: Sowing Spiritual Seed
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2024, 07:22:43 AM »

Thanks, Pamela, but it was more of a rhetorical question, seeing how the answer was in the parables cited.


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Re: Sowing Spiritual Seed
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2024, 08:47:30 AM »

Wow, I am so naive. I actually thought you were asking a question :o
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Re: Sowing Spiritual Seed
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2024, 09:30:28 AM »

You as naive is the furthest thing from my mind. You're as sharp as they come, and one of the most positive people I know. It may just be you've discovered peace and happiness in your soul.
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Luk 22:32  But I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail. And you, when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers."

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Re: Sowing Spiritual Seed
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2024, 12:36:35 PM »

Oh thank you Porter.

Very uplifting coming from a brother.
May the force be with you also ;D

Peace and Love from God to all my family.
May Our Lord Bless you all.

Oh and to Dennis. A Big thank you for your hard work putting all those
teachings on you tube, I am so grateful for them. May God continue to give you
strength Dennis and also thankful for our mods. Love to all.❤️
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Re: Sowing Spiritual Seed
« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2024, 10:45:37 AM »

Much apricated Pamela - Thank you
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