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I listened to this teaching last night and Ray spoke about this scripture
which I hadn’t notice before.

2 Chron. 19:2…. But Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him
and said to King Jehoshaphat, Should you help the wicked and love those
who hate the Lord? Because of this, wrath has gone out against you from the Lord.

1 Sam. 9:9… ( formerly in Israel, when a man went to inquire of God, he said
let us go to the seer, for TODAYS PROPHET was formerly called a seer.

Ray said something that caught my ear . He said , after mentioning many names in this teaching brought up one in particular. He made a statement about an article
he had read titled( Is TJ Jakes the next Billy Graham)
I came across that article today in Uncor Sunday. I hardly ever listen to anyone
other than Ray but this peeked my interest, so I did a little research and
there are many of his talks on YouTube along with other motivational speakers.

Ray had said that these last generations would attempt self- purification.
I wasn’t sure what that meant so I looked it up.
It refers to the process of removing negative influences from one’s life and
developing positive habits and attitudes.
FYI,,, Jakes was named best preacher by Time Magazine.
There are many, many of these so called Christian Motivational Speakers.
To me this is the free will attitude at its worst, this self purification.

Amos 8:11… Behold ,the days are coming declares the Lord God when I will
send a famine on the land , not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but
of hearing the word of the Lord.

I read a quote on one of the posts from sea of glass.
Quote… people’s behaviour is so out of sync, it is incredible to witness.

I agree. I am witnessing things not only in people’s behaviour but all over the net and the news,that are so wicked it lies heavy on me.
Are any of you guys experiencing this? My only solace is reading scripture,
Praise Jesus for His Mercy and Love.

From The Myth Of Free Will

Isaiah 10:12 I will punish ( Hebrew , avenge, hurt, do judgement) the fruit of
the stout ( Hebrew , arrogant) heart of the King of Assyria ( or anyone else with
the same sin seeing that God is no respecter of persons, Acts.10:34) and the glory of his high ( Hebrew, (haughty looks)

Anyway Ray said in that teaching that we should keep our eye on this TJJakes.

I’m so tired. How about you all. What are you experiencing?
God Bless You All
In Christ, Pamela

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Mat 23:25  "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence!
Mat 23:26  Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup, so the outside of it may also become clean.
Mat 23:27  "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which appear beautiful on the outside, but inside are full of dead men's bones and every impurity.
Mat 23:28  In the same way, on the outside you seem righteous to people, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

What is a “generation” besides children?

1Jn 3:10  This is how God's children--and the Devil's children--are made evident. Whoever does not do what is right is not of God, especially the one who does not love his brother.

My feelings are similar Pamela. HANG IN THERE.


Thank you Casey, you hang in there too.

Porter , those ducks are vultures.


--- Quote from: Musterseed on March 09, 2024, 04:35:02 PM ---Porter , those ducks are vultures.

--- End quote ---

I thought you might pick up on that, Pamela. ;)

I went on a trip recently to the big city, unwillingly, but I had to go see an endocrinologist for my thyroid. The interesting thing about this is that everywhere I went, I kept running into these “vultures in ducks clothing”  ;D . A number of them even took good care of me and my son, who was my escort on my trip into the big city. Some of these “ducks” were total strangers, and a couple were old friends from college. Even my son believes in God, but not quite the same way we do here at BT.

So then, of course, I began asking God, “what are you doing?” because this was a bit surreal for me once I realized with whom God was causing me to be surrounded by. Looking back, especially after your post here, Pamela, I see how every one of them were attempting some form of the self purification that you are referring to. Every one of them was doing the “wonderful works” they are known for doing. I know because they told me.

Here's the kicker. Besides running into many who call Jesus Lord, I also kept running into people in the streets who seemed to need my help. I offered some of them money or gave them whatever they asked of me and then some. One guy I met wanted to show me that his jacket was stab proof by repeatedly stabbing himself in the chest. He even mentioned that my jacket was not stab proof  :o . I am not sure why I didn't notice sooner when I first called him over that he was armed to the teeth with knives in almost every pocket of that jacket of his. And I was alone with him in the parking lot of the hotel my son and I were staying in. My son must have gotten concerned after a few minutes because he went looking for me outside. It seems once the person with the stab proof jacket saw my son, he proceeded to leave. My son is a big, strong young man, so maybe the knife man felt intimidated. Anyhow, I felt sorry for knife man and asked him if he needed some money, but he seemed insulted by my offer and started yelling something as he was leaving.

So now, I can't help but to think that I too was attempting self purification. I mean, it felt pretty good to help those that seem to need it, but I sense that it could have gotten me hurt a few times. Some of these people had the look of desperation in their eyes, and I couldn't help but to pity them. I mean, I know what it's like to live in the streets and having to beg. So I guess in the back of my mind I was trying to pay it forward from all the times people, including Christians, helped me in my destitution.

Now, I know I didn't need to do any of that because it doesn't make me righteous or clean. I actually feel pretty stupid and ashamed about it now, to be honest. It feels like I was just on some emotional high the whole time. If we've learned anything here at BT is that we know that the heart is the seat of our emotions. To be led by our emotions (caused by external circumstances) has the potential to deceive us into thinking we are good, which makes us feel less guilty or blinds us concerning our sinful beastly nature. Yet, it is through godly guilt, sorrow, and shame that we can repent.

Joh 3:20  For everyone who practices wicked things hates the light and avoids it, so that his deeds may not be exposed.
Joh 3:21  But anyone who lives by the truth comes to the light, so that his works may be shown to be accomplished by God.

Heb 10:16  This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws on their hearts, and I will write them on their minds,
Heb 10:17  He adds: I will never again remember their sins and their lawless acts.


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