The law is Spiritual

[Daddysgirl.2]

Hi all

My title is derived from Ray's teaching that The law of Moses was Spiritual. I believe it's also on one of the videos on YouTube - I will find it if necessary.


I was revisiting Christ's sermon on the mount and came to a part where he declares that he came not to do away with the law. Heaven and earth will not pass until every word in the law fulfilled.
18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not even the smallest detail of God's law will disappear until its purpose is achieved. 19So if you see ignore the least commandment and teach others to do the same, you will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Then Paul writes below in Rom 8:3. I understand both and I believe that they do not contradict.
My question is, seeing as during the same sermon on the mount, Christ teaches us a "higher" law. You have heard it said that you shall not commit murder without cause. but I tell you that he who hates his brother etc.
Can it be deducted that when you practice the law of the spirit so to speak, you inadvertently fulfill the law of Moses? Of course I'm not saying that you can murder and that receives no punishment because you love both your brother and enemy. This is a long way to ask what is the least commandment?

The law of Moses was unable to save us because of the weakness of our sinful nature. So God did what the law could not do. He sent his own Son in a body like the bodies we sinners have. And in that body God declared an end to sin's control over us by giving his Son as a sacrifice for our sins.

[Musterseed]

Hi Matty
I think the answer you are looking for is in the teaching of Repentance and Guilty
of All.

You can go to YouTube where Dennis has put some shorts and their you will see
James 2:10 being explained.

I'm not sure this is what you are searching. Just my limited understanding.
Hope it helps Mattie.

[Dave in Tenn]

https://bible-truths.com/lake16-D3.htm  may also shed some light.

[Porter]

Can it be deducted that when you practice the law of the spirit so to speak, you inadvertently fulfill the law of Moses?

That is one way of looking at it, yes. The reason being that if you nip the problem of murder in the bud by loving your brother in your heart, then you won't desire to physically murder him. The nipping part in my experience appears to be a long process.


As to what is the least commandment, I'm not sure if that exists, though I honestly don't know. However, all the commandments are one and the same.

Mat 22:37  Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38  This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39  And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 22:40  On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


So yeah, when we obey the law spiritually, or rather when we obey Jesus spiritually, we, through Jesus and like Jesus, fulfill all the law and prophets.

[indianabob]

Father God instituted the written law knowing that we could not fulfill it.
It was instituted so that sin would increase. Romans 5:20
Bob

[Dennis Vogel]

Father God instituted the written law knowing that we could not fulfill it.
It was instituted so that sin would increase. Romans 5:20
Bob

If Ray ever referenced Romans 5:20 I can't find it. Thanks Bob.

[Musterseed]

Rom.7:25...Thanks be to God through Christ our Lord!
So then I myself serve the law of God WITH MY MIND, ( the law is spiritual)
but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.

Ther is no least commandment. If you commit one , you are guilty of all
because you are a law- breaker. You break Gods laws and His laws are
spiritual.

Remember Rays teaching about adultry.
Rom.7:7... ...... yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known
what it is to covet, if the law had not said ,you shall not covet".tenth commandment. Coveting is of the heart/ mind before you commit adultry or any
other sin you think about it first.

We cannot obey and full the law because it is spiritual. What law.
The tenth commandment thou shalt not covet. It's taught in the sermon on the mount. It's a much higher standard . Don't commit adultry , it's a sin.
And don't even THINK ABOUT IT, IS LUST, that begins in the heart as with all
other sins. As Ray said we are sinning machines. We are law-  breaking carnal
minded , God hating beasts,sons of perdition until God removes it. O please hurry .
Lord.

Remember in Rom.8, the Pharisees wanted to stone the adulteress but Jesus said,
" he who is without sin cast the first stone " and he wrote something on the ground.

Verse 9.. then those who heard it, being convicted in their CONCIENCE went out
one by one.... Why.

I wonder what Jesus wrote on the ground verse 8. Whatever it was scared the
Pharisees, cause they hightailed it.😁 Me thinks maybe some of these Pharisees may have been the recipient's of this woman's sin of adultury. I don't know that for sure but I know Jesus could read their MINDS.

Ray taught that whenever the apostles asked about how to not sin , He always
used the commandment " thou shalt not commit adultry, remember. I can't remember what teaching that was in but it was amazing .

Caps for emphasis not yelling. Every day is one day closer, hang in their cause
Lawlessness is increasing. Love to all.
which teaching that was in,

[Daddysgirl.2]

I'm glad I decided to log in today. I've been examining myself and the admonishing I received since my return.

Thank you once again. I'm studying, praying, meditating always. It is tough.