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NoSin:
Sorry for my first post to be one of frustration, but I’m so sick of “Christians” that I know treating the Bible as if it was OPTIONAL reading material… I really don’t mean to rant, so I will just get to my question. I keep finding myself in discussions with people who believe “selectively”. What I mean is they believe in Heaven, but not in Hell, or they will admit Christ died for our SINS, but they say it’s okay NOT to believe in Him… I don’t know how to handle theses people, and the fact that they call themselves Born Again, really drives me crazy. How do you all deal with these folks? How can I explain to them God requires certain things from us, and that you can’t just pick and choose the “good stuff” that you want to believe!?

Thank you for your advice.

angie:
Hi NoSin,

First off 'Welcome' to the Forum. I think you will find that most people believe 'selectively' to use your terminology. Others might see that as 'discernment' Everyone who is on a personal walk with God is at different stages in their growth and development with regard to spiritual maturity. Some are blind to the truths of scripture [God's word] Some can see some things but not others. Yet others have matured a lot. I personally am at the stage where, although I do not understand or know everything, I believe I am on the right path.

The scriptures can be heavyweight reading material if God has not granted you 'the eyes to see' and sometimes people need a little help. Pray and ask for it. If it's God's will that you know at this time, He will grant you spiritual sight. The reason people can say it's alright not to believe in Him, is because it means He is not calling them to Him AT THIS MOMENT,[but He Will]

It is All of God, He decides who will be called and when. He decides how much will be revealed at any given time to any given individual. It is all working according to His plan. Others cannot help but comply with the state of mind/place on the learning curve that God has given them, neither can we. That's why we shouldn't get frustrated at where other people are on the curve, it's not so long ago we were there also. We really must just accept that God is working out EVERYTHING according to his will in every last one of us. We can discuss and debate different things with people all day long, but if they haven't YET been granted 'ears to hear and 'eyes to see' they won't understand, so stop discussing the same point after a few times of explanations/showing them the relevant scriptures, and move on to something else. I'm sure you've heard all the sayings about 'flogging a dead horse' take a horse to water, but can't make it drink' etc. Don't do it, just accept how it is for them at this time and you'll find the frustrations cease. [anybody know why horses are always used in these analogies? ;D]

Hope this helps you for the moment

Angie

orion77:
Hello NoSin, and welcome to the forum.

When we are no longer of the world, those in the world do not want to buy what we are selling, spiritually speaking of course.  The carnal mind cannot understand the spiritual things of God.

Bobby, I like this verse you quoted:

(1Ti 6:5)  meddling, of men whose mind has been corrupted and deprived of the truth, supposing gain to be godliness. Withdraw from such persons.

Nowadays so many are preaching prosperity, the kingdom of God is not of this worlds cares or desires. 


Angie, good point, we are all progressing along at different points.  Patience is a hard thing to learn, at least it has been for me,   ;D.

God bless,

Gary

angie:
Gary,

you are not alone mate, seen the day where If I couldn't get what I wanted 'yesterday' I could have a right little hissy fit to myself about it. Had to learn patience in the end. [if only to stop falling over my bottom lip!  ;D] LOL

Angie

NoSin:
Thank you all for the warm greetings and words of advice... and Bobby thank you for the Scripture...

The weird part about this problem (sorry angie, it's still a bit of a "problem" for me, if that's the right word)... is that no matter how much you quote the Bible, these people just seem to make up their own beliefs, do you all know what i am talking about? Maybe you all don't have similar experiences?

I have read so much about "inclusinvess" and all that other politically-correct stuff (and from people who claim to be Christian!) that i just can't understand what they mean anymore! God gave us ONE PATH to Salvation, through His Son, not though Buddha or Mohammed or whatever... I guess I'm just curious to know how you actually speak to these folks, without just "flogging the horse"!

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