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Days of Noah
Porter:
Hi Pamela,
Many are familiar with the King James Version of Mat 24:37 below:
Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Renditions such as these put the presence of Christ as a future only event. However, Thayers gives us the following definition:
parousia
Thayer Definition:
1) presence
2) the coming, arrival, advent
2a) the future visible return from heaven of Jesus, to raise the dead, hold the last judgment, and set up formally and gloriously the kingdom of God
The first definition “presence” is pretty darn good and is quite often used in the KJV when it's convenient. But when it comes to Mat. 25:37, the translator's theology appears. We can see it at definition 2a in Thayers. Make of that what you will.
My question was whether if anyone else can “see” that Christ is here now based on Ray's quote and all the scripture provided. If Christ is here, why do so many look to the sky for Christ's to physically appear? It's the same question the two messengers asked the disciples as they watched Christ disappear into the clouds.
Act 1:4 While He was together with them, He commanded them not to leave Jerusalem, but to wait for the Father's promise. "This," He said, "is what you heard from Me;
Act 1:5 for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now."
Act 1:6 So when they had come together, they asked Him, "Lord, at this time are You restoring the kingdom to Israel?"
Act 1:7 He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or periods that the Father has set by His own authority.
Act 1:8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be My witnesses in Jerusalem, in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."
Act 1:9 After He had said this, He was taken up as they were watching, and a cloud received Him out of their sight.
Act 1:10 While He was going, they were gazing into heaven, and suddenly two men in white clothes stood by them.
Act 1:11 They said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking up into heaven? This Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come in the same way that you have seen Him going into heaven."
When Christ told them they would be “baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now” He was telling them the manner in which He, the Holy Spirit and Comforter would return. As Christ was being taken into heaven, a cloud received Him OUT OF THEIR SIGHT. This also indicates the manner in which He would return. A physical cloud obscured His ascent to the Father, and a spiritual cloud will obscure His presence. His Elect is that spiritual cloud if Christ be in you.
1Co 10:1 Now I want you to know, brothers, that our fathers were all under the cloud, all passed through the sea,
1Co 10:2 and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea.
1Co 10:3 They all ate the same spiritual food,
1Co 10:4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from a spiritual rock that followed them, and that rock was Christ.
If this is all true, I'm in absolute amazement. But I had to get input from the members in case I'm just talking crazy lol.
Musterseed:
No you’re not crazy Porter.
Now would be a good time to read.. What is the Gospel of the Kingdom? And
LOVE 💕
1John 4:17…AS he is, so are we in this world.
Phil.2:13… For it is God which works in you, both to will and to do of His good pleasure.
In Christ , Pamela
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