> Email to Ray
Consensus
Steve Crook:
--- Quote from: Falconn003 ---Sorin
By far i do not expect nothing from these people, yet it would seem their expectations lay with us here in Bible-Truths.
As an apostle wrote if Jesus did not die nor raised from the dead, then your faith is in vain. Can not get e-sword to get me that scripture.
Hey perhaps my e-sword is ant-christ...lol
Rodger
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(1Co 15:12) Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
(1Co 15:13) But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
(1Co 15:14) And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
(1Co 15:15) Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
(1Co 15:16) For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
(1Co 15:17) And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
(1Co 15:18) Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
(1Co 15:19) If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
(1Co 15:20) But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
(1Co 15:21) For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
(1Co 15:22) For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Falconn003:
Steve Crook
Why thank you so kindly brother for those wonderful scriptures indeed.
Rodger
zander:
98% disagree?
Surely that proves Ray's point (and the scriptures)?
For many are called (98%) and few are chosen (2%)
Harryfeat:
--- Quote from: deejcop ---Hi y'all!
I tell you, these emails are such a blessing to me because they do nothing but help strengthen my belief that those of orthodox christianity are SO unlike the Christ they claim to know and serve.
What I'd like to comment on is the oft-used mantra of "letting the holy spirit lead you." So timely is this topic because just this morning I woke up and was a bit curious of that whole concept. I've heard so many people say that, even I'VE said it numerous times. But what actually does it mean? For so many years, I believed that I was "being led/taught/guided by the spirit, specifically during those several years when I taught bible study, sunday school, even my old church's "new members" class, and truly believed in my heart that what I was teaching was right(And yes, I taught about heaven, hell, being baptized with the Holy Ghost, speaking in tongues, prosperity, ALL that stuff.).Many of the conversations I have with those who are still in the orthodox way of belief tell me that "the holy spirit is not leading me in that direction(The concept of universal reconciliation),so I know it's not of God." I've even heard a woman tell me that the holy spirit told her to date a certain man...even though he ultimately was no good for her.
Do you think people really know what being led/taught of the holy spirit means? Maybe for Ron, it's the "98%" of the people who said that Ray's views are wrong.
Bless y'all
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Hello everyone,
My initial reaction was similar to yours DJ, but on futher reflection, I had these additional thoughts. [Perhaps I should stick to first impressions]
This email didn't even warrant a reply from Ray so why is it posted here. I thought that this was an area where we were taught or shown how to respond to the unscriptural. I found nothing edifying in this particular email and do not understand why it was posted here. Perhaps there is some rhyme or reason as to the email postings here but I have no clue.
Though this somewhat incoherent and illogical email might make us feel better about ourselves because we see things differently, it appears to be nonetheless a lashing out and denial of at least some of the concepts discussed at BT. When confronted with such seemingly controversial material it is only human nature to first lash out at what contradicts what they have been taught all their lives by people they respect.
The concept of letting the holy spirit guide you sounds so familiar to the other mantra I've heard here about eyes and ears. How are they different except for their skin? Perhaps I take it the wrong way but I find a touch of arrogance and lacking in humility from those who profess it. It is similar to those who claim or even imply they are members of the elect. It seems so presumptuous to me. I am not judging here but trying to explain my knee jerk reaction to hearing such self aggrandizement.
I apologize to those who expect a scriptural quote but I am too new to the study of scripture to give you anything meaningful.
feat
Harryfeat:
--- Quote from: bobbys43 ---Feat,
The only one showing arrogance in that email was Ron the emailer!! Read it again and you you will see being called a fool is not what I would call edifiing!!!
These emails are shown what we will one day encounter out there and this kind of email shows the arrogance and judgemental attitude of the babylon church!! I am learning from these!!
love ya,
bobby
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Hi bobby,
At least we agree that there was nothing edifying about this email. You may want to reread my original post and keep mind that I was talking about Ron in particular and everyone else who espouses or implies their superior wisdom and knowledge.
What I don't get is how this particular email without a response is helpful. The only thing I can come up with is that one would probably just walk away from Ron shaking one's head.
Hope this helps
feat
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