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Why the contention?
Beloved:
Arcturus
I have to AMEN your post since the same proverb came to mind when reading this thread.
Beloved
yashua1970:
Hello i just read all of the posts, and I have a question as well.
Paul stated in
Acts 17:2
And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
Acts 18:4
And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
Acts 18:19
And he came to Ephesus, and left them there: but he himself entered into the synagogue, and reasoned with the Jews.
Shouldn't we also do the same with those who don't understand the truths of God?
I know for myself how hard it was to "understand" at first. I didn't like religious institutions but thats where I was at, at the time.
And that was the last thing that I wanted was another place that was formed around a institution.
I think alot of people just have that mindset, I know I did.
but when one encounters such truth that is shared at this forum i think peoples brains start to go "tilt" "tilt" "tilt"
and they don't know how to act, or react.
I know that not everybody can be reasoned with peacefully, and I guess that is because "God will have mercy on whom He will have mercy, and God will harden, whom He will harden"
and "It is God who works in you (and them) to will and to do of His good pleasure"
I think God just answered my Question.
I feel like a dunce.
Deborah-Leigh:
Hi yashua1970
I think we are all loveable dunces in front of Gods awsome wisdom and power and we are loveable only because of Christ...
I like it that Paul reasoned with people and he did not ARGUE with them! ......from what I have seen here,and I am a newbie, there is much love and reason and wisdom and council and truth which is nothing to argue about! We are so blessed to be here....
Arcturus
YellowStone:
Arcturus and yashua1970, well said! :)
I am sure you both know of the old saying: "it takes two to tango"
The only reason that there are arguements or heated debates on Bible-Truths is that apposing sides are trying to prove a point! Gosh darn, what point is there to prove? :)
Don't be mistaken, I used to always have to have the last word. I soon learned the easiest way to burn a bridge is to argue over something.
My point is, if one is walking with God then what could possibly be said by anyone that could upset that person. I mean it! :)
Neither God nor the Word of Truth needs us defending them; I mean how could they? :) Rather, we must defend our own position with them both, by being very careful of what we say (sometimes saying nothing is enough) Honestly, our actions sometimes speak louder than words.
Unfortuantly I understand why the moderators a forced to put such restrictions on debating, etc; it's because many of us still have something to prove. (I am refering to absolutely no-one!!)
Guys and Gals, do we really need to be told that we cannot argue. We should know that already. :)
Finally, I would like to mention that for the most part, the forum has been extremely uplifting, positive and loving.
Who in this world could ask for more?
Love to you all
Darren
hillsbororiver:
Many good questions and comments, what we must do in determining a response to opposing or conflicticting views is to first patiently discern the motivation of the person presenting this conflicting statement or question.
1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
Does this person approach us in a humble spirit with questions or do they have what we could term immature beliefs that are rooted in their previous "religeous" experience, or are they preaching an unsound doctrine? Should we give a podium to someone who is here to disrupt or divide? It is usually evident after a few posts whether or not someone is here to learn with us or is trying to teach us, if the questions appear to be legitimate we are obligated to answer in humility and patience, if they are here to teach us then our Lord has set an example.
It is true that Jesus did not scold or ridicule the sheep, but he was very direct with the so called teachers and leaders of heresy or false doctrines or hypocrisy.
Mat 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
Mat 23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchers of the righteous,
Mat 23:30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
We all have different offices in the Body, not all of us are admonished to be teachers or evangelists, if He wills us to be either it will happen. What we are admonished is;
Pe 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
This article is very helpful in clarifying how our Lord dealt with the teachers and self proclaimed leaders;
http://bible-truths.com/fools.htm
His Peace to you,
Joe
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