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Flesh that profits nothing?
DuluthGA:
Hi, I reiterate Brett's note of thanks for the post of Ray's response to the meaning of flesh & profit. Thanks a lot!
Allow me to re-cap the prominant thoughts for my own edification:
-- The experience (of the flesh) itself is not the profit itself. Good, I had innately recognized this.
-- Our flesh experiences are not in and by themselves a benefit/profit.... until OTHER FACTS [like the movement of God's spirit? wink wink?] PRODUCE THOSE BENEFITS. I am all with our wonderful Ray on that!
-- There is no profit in the flesh itself only what comes out of it. Another great one Ray! I'm still in there all the way.
-- And once someone is out of it (as out of the world), the world is no profit/benefit to you. Further ... the benefits are in Christ, out of the flesh and the world. I definitely agree.
However, this last point has recently challenged my thinking in it's application, and I would like to nail it and put it to rest.
Just what exactly is meant here when it comes to living a general life on this earth? Am I wrong in perceiving that it is physically impossible to be physically 'out of the world' and that this is to be taken spiritually? To use my own and my Master's discretion when doing, going, buying, consuming, reacting, socializing, expressing, having some entertainment, etc.? Surely I'm in the ball park on this.
And does this not go hand in hand with coming out of Babylon? Another spiritual application of our flesh? I would hope so, because if it's not, then I would say that you all are the nicest bunch of fanatics I've ever met. ;D
With His joy, Janice
gmik:
Good thread to bring back up.
Janice, I think you are in the ball park on this. Paul's epistles go into the physical aspects of dealing w/ the world. We are in the world but not of it. Loving one another, the fruits of the Spirit, the gifts of the Spirit, sharing, etc etc.
But when I go thru the check out line, I am just living life at that point. Sometimes I remember to smile and say thanks but I don't always think of it in spiritual ways. Swimming, going to the ball game, knitting, WHATEVER is still being physical in a physical world.
Whatever is not of faith is sin. Do all w/o murmuring and complaining. Love one another. I think we can layer these on top of everyday, sometimes humdrum, daily living. Walking in the Spirit.
And yes, we ARE the nicest bunch of fanatics!! You included!!
DuluthGA:
:) :) :) Gena, you bring me supreme joy, and I agree that I'm a nice fanatic too! HA!
Your overall response reassured me, and the best part was I found the Roman 14: 23 verse verified, and I'll display it again:
Whatever is not of faith is sin.
Good one, it helps and is right on the ball!
I am praising and glorifying His wonderful name!
Janice
gmik:
Thanks!!
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