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keys2heaven:
First of all, let me say what an eye-opening experience this has been. I have been reading most of Ray's extensive teachings and have not been so excited about the word of God in a very long time.

Yes, having been in and out of church for most of my adult life, some of the teachings played a number on my carnal mindset.

My family and I currently attend a Nazarene chuch. I see that there are many here that have been asked to leave, felt uncomfortable after discussing these teachings with other members or clergy and left, or just decided to leave on their own. I must say that I am struggling with this very thing but have yet to make a decision to leave.

On Sunday night we have what we call "small groups" (a.k.a. bible study, current event discussion as related to scripture). Last night's meeting was all about the recent school shootings and whether or not it was o.k. to question God and the ever-famous "Why does God allow evil to happen".

Naturally, the discussion became one of free will. I'm about halfway through the series that Ray teaches on the myth of free will. You should have seen the faces in the room when I brought up that God caused these situations to happen and to say anything else would be an acknowledgement that God is not in control of His creation and that God Himself is fallible. The group leader, a friend of mine, then went in to a discussion of the Garden of Eden and the choice we made back there and how it was the wrong choice. I submitted to the group that it wasn't the wrong choice but the only choice that could have been made because God caused all of the events to orchestrate in such fashion for Eve to make that choice. Really, I wish Ray could have been there in the room to explain it but I'm sure that we'd need to have class for a week!

Anyone been in a situation where a discussion came up and you just felt a burning sensation inside prompting you to speak up becasue you knew what was being taught was 100% wrong. Man, I had it last night.

Needless to say, I need to study more and get the Word of God into my heart so that I can show where God's word says that He is the one in control and nothing happens without Him.

Anyway, my name is Mike, and I am happy to be here.

Peace.

Kat:
Hi Mike,

Good to have you here at the forum.
I see your off to a good start, with sharing the Truth at your church.
You much know they will not put up with your 'heresy' for very long.
But now that you have revealed what you know,
you have to say what God leads you to say, if asked ( 1Peter 3:15).
So the decision to leave may not be totally in your hands  :)
I will pray for God to give you strength and courage in whatever lies ahead.
The main scripture to show God's in controll,

Eph 1:11  In Him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will,

The forum is here and you can depend on it for the fellowship you will desire.

mercy, peace, and love
Kat

Patrick:
Welcome to the forum, Mike.
I believe God dragged me out of Babylon, it was not a decision I made.
I continued going to church after God opened up my eyes & ears to the truth, and then one day I could not get out of that place fast enough. I have not looked back.

Yes, I have been in many situations that you speak of. But, only on a couple of occasions have I had the "burning sensation" to speak up.
I'm still studying myself and have learned that (most of the time) when these situations occur, the other person will want to argue. After God led me to Bible-Truths, I wanted to debate/argue with anyone and I believe He orchestrated these types of situations to teach me not to debate/argue. Trust me, I had my tail handed to me on several occasions.
Now I just bite my lip and strive for the time when people will see Christ in me and ask. I feel it's the stage God has me at this time. I know that when the time comes and God wants me to speak up, I will not have any control and the words will be His. In the meantime; study/pray, study/pray, study/pray.

bobbys43:
Welcome Mike and it is great to have you here.

 Now concerning the church you attend. You keep sharing the truth with those people and it will not be long before you will be looked down upon,accused of heresy and then they will throw you out of the temple.

 Good for you that you stood up for the truth and you never know my friend God may be using you to reveal this wonderful truth of His to someone else.

 God started dragging me out a few years ago before he revealed His truths to me. I have not been back since.

 great to have you here my new friend,

 bobby(bob)

Dennis Vogel:
I've often had the desire but God would tie my tongue. There may be one other person in your church God is speaking to through you.

Dennis

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