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Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Dean

I was struck out by Babylon 9 months ago when I wrote that post for this thread. Back then the Forum did not have a spell check! ;D :D

It is so interesting that you are caused to post your observation and comment to this thread because this is making me look back.

The pain of being kicked out as I described, is no longer an issue as much as it was then!  I can see how I have moved away from being vulnerable to that moment of persecution. I am much stronger now for having been exposed to the truth taught here through Ray. I would be able to face any of the blind and know their thoughts without it being nearly as much as a problem as it would have been back then. I can see that Babylonians would be thinking all the thoughts that would justify themselves in ignorance and condemn me in my freedom in Christ!!! I know too that they would have the sanction and approval of the group leaders and followers to secure their sence of justification. Is that not bazaar!!! ;D

I too was once highly trained in the way of THEIR THOUGHTS and away from the thoughts and mind of Christ!....I perished from that life and now have a new one.

I was  thinking that very thought today about other aspects of my life.

I hope you too are finding peace and favor in your quest and desire for the truth.

Peace be to you

Arcturus :)

Shmeggly:
Hey Brian, that's got to be really painful after 38 years in the church!  I was just going to say that I really like what you wrote, because people say the same thing to me, and I was like "you miss me in church....what about OUTSIDE the church?"  (I haven't said this to anyone yet, but I am going to...)

They miss you in the church, but that's it.  I know it is their way of maybe connecting or whatever, and some do mean it.  But it should make them think-call me at home!  Or whatever....

Kat, your post was excellent!  Exactly what I have thought as well, the social aspect/clique thing....some of the best "Christians" (specially the kids) are absolutely horrid human beings, and won't even acknowledge someone outside their social "class"....God forbid a homeless or hurting human being should ever come their way!

Patrick-same thing.  They will read the material with glaze over their eyes, and just nod, and then either never mention it, or just say that they believe the bible with hell right there in it!

Arcturus, I too wanted man's approval, and didn't want to rock the boat.  I still struggle with being a people pleaser, instead of pleasing God.  I lead worship in a little church for about 3 years, and now when I look back, I feel sick about all of it.

  Know that you're helping us by sharing what's going on, and hopefully you feel encouraged, strengthened, and are going to be a light to your church....James

gmik:
I love re reading these older threads!

As an addendum to my post of Oct.... I found out not long ago one of the reasons no one has bothered to call us....

My son had a meeting w/ one of the pastors and told him he was very concerned about the direction we were headed.  My son told him of Ray and our new beliefs.  Needless to say that would provoke a cold shoulder from them.  Carlton Pearson was our pastors' pastor and they just lumped us w/ him.

Believe me.  If all churches knew of all our beliefs we would be branded heretics!  And they would have nothing to do w/ us.

As an aside, my son is heart broken about all this.  He feels we are following a cult and that Ray has it all wrong.  Funny tho, he said back in college, he figured out there was no hell!  But the rest he can't accept.  Prayers please!!!

skydreamers:

--- Quote ---I answered the  message with this responce  "  I believe God answers all my needs... not my wants which He also knows about but I do not bother Him with.

I recieved the following responce....Consider yourself struck from all lists....

--- End quote ---
Wow, Arcturus, that is really something and Praise God!!  I'm glad Dean brought this thread to the forefront as I've never read it before....Glad you were struck out of Babylon sister! :)

Gena, you have been and will continue to be in my prayers, especially about your son.  I feel sad for him that he is so heartbroken over the fact that you have complete faith and trust that God is able to perform His strange work to such a positive and joyous conclusion!  It never ceases to amaze me how our beliefs here are considered heretical and cultish just because we simply believe that LOVE NEVER FAILS!!  Go figure...

Peace and love,
Diana

cjwood:
hi arcturus,
i am new to posting on the forum, but have read many of your posts over the months.  i learn much from the insights God has given you.  personally, i believe you are blessed by being "struck" by babylon.  and as another reply to your post said, people in the church he attended for 38 yrs SAY they "miss" him, but have never SHOWN it in any way, i say they have no clue to what they are REALLY missing.  the truth that God is showing us via His spirit to us on bible-truths / ray smith.  they are "missing" the mark. 

the blatant ridicule by that "church" to you, as their brother in Christ, because you would not attend their ritual truly shows that they have no clue to what the Love of Christ is.  i have not attended church since i first read through the lake of fire series about 2 yrs ago. 

cheers to you arcturus for your heart for God and His Son and your standing firmly planted on That Rock.

cjwood

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