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Question From Jennie
Harryfeat:
Hello Chrissie,
Thanks for your post. I am thankful that my point of view was understood by someone.
My only objective was to respond to Jennie's question in a way that let her know that her church might be lumped into babylon rightly or wrongly even though not all her church's doctrines were known. She is a kind and gentle soul and I now understand her reluctance to post her question on the open forum.
I have to admit that I was completely baffled by the attack in response I got and it made me feel like a "lamb in wolf's clothing" for a while.
I appreciate your concern and assure you that I do not feel reluctance to make future posts. I pray only that tolerance, understanding and brotherly love be experienced by all in fellowship here.
feat
ertsky:
this is in no way intended as a slight in the flesh towards jennie or any others who may or may not still be outside the doctrine of Christ
but i just read these verses and thought they bore reference
Rev 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
Rev 18:22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
Rev 18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
Rev 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
Rev 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
i am beginning to see i have not thanked God enough for opening my eyes to the doctrine of Christ !
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jennie:
Hi Shibboleth, I hope I got your name spelled right. To answer your question about why we are dis-liked... There are lots of reasons but here goes. My husband , who is a minister, doesn't look like one. He looks more like a biker! The Preacher's association or whatever it is called are the traditional expensive suit wearing preachers so he isn't welcomed. If I am going to be totally honest, he doesn't even want to be welcomed as that would make him have to fit in with them in appearance, money and so on. Our church doesn't teach tithing . People give as God leads them to and that may be giving to a stranger on the street, or someone you may know that has a need. We don't care what people look like , wear or how "financially able" they are. It has been said of us that if we would be more restrictive in who is allowed at our church we would have a greater impact for the Lord. I still am not sure what that really means. We have people from all different walks of life. Some of us used to over-indulge in alcohol, some have been on drugs, some people are from divorced situations and you could go on and on. Those are just some of the reasons. We pray too much, we sing too much, we let anybody com into our church, we help people find jobs, we accept people just as they are and we believe that is what is right. Jesus died for all didn't he? The funny thing is that most of the churches around here have lots of money sitting in banks and they send needy people to us to help! Not that we mind. It's just that it is hard to understand why they don't just go ahead and help them themselves. I know I am running on but as you can tell I am quite passionate about just serving God however and whenever I can. I even have family members that have nothing to do with us because of our stand. It is sad that it happens but I guess that is just life.
SandyFla:
--- Quote from: jennie ---It has been said of us that if we would be more restrictive in who is allowed at our church we would have a greater impact for the Lord. I still am not sure what that really means. We have people from all different walks of life. Some of us used to over-indulge in alcohol, some have been on drugs, some people are from divorced situations and you could go on and on. Those are just some of the reasons. We pray too much, we sing too much, we let anybody com into our church, we help people find jobs, we accept people just as they are and we believe that is what is right. Jesus died for all didn't he?
--- End quote ---
How could being restrictive bring about a greater impact? Methinks those people are confused. Jesus wasn't restrictive in His ministry. He went to the same kinds of people who are in your church. I daresay that if Jesus were on earth today, His "congregation" would look more like yours than the ones down the street.
shibboleth:
Hi Jennie, my name is Debra, if you want to call me that. Or Deb or Shib, I don't care. Thank you for explaining why your church is so disliked. I just thought of a scripture in Rev.3:17 Because you say I am rich and have become wealthy and have need of nothing and you don't know that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked.
Usually the rich are poor and the poor are rich. We are rich in the truths of Gods word, and poor in material things. Tell your minister there are others who want to teach truth, and, unfortunately, you don't get rich on truth. Most people don't want to take that kind of medicine.
I really enjoy you Jennie.God bless.
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