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rvhill:

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--- Quote from: Jennie ---To be honest and I know this is ugly of me, but I know the preacher that told him that and I wanted to ask that preacher if he thought that 300 lb. gut he was sporting condoned the sin of gluttony!

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Jennie, you should have asked him that.   :wink:
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I agree it not so much ugly, as pointing out the facts

jennie:
Hey Bobby, I know exactly what you are talking about. When we first started going to church the pastor said we couldn't go to stores, restaurants, etc. that had anything to do with alcohol. I just about drove myself crazy trying to stay away from everything!!! I finally figured out that God gave me a brain and a conscience just like he did everyone else and that no one was any more or less than anyone. I FINALLY started using my own brain  and letting the good Lord correct  me himself instead of allowing another human to lay out my path. Needless to say, it didn't turn out too good and we were no longer welcomed to that church. The sad thing about this today is that that pastor is still at that church that is literally falling down all around him. No one at all goes there anymore. It's just him and a falling down building.

shibboleth:
In the late 1970's I attended a Baptist church. The list of things they considered sinful was quite long.
1. Drinking alcoholic beverages was sinful.
2. Going to movies was sinful.
3. Women wearing pants to church was sinful.
4. Playing cards was sinful.
5. Boys and girls swimming together was sinful.
6.Smoking cigarettes was sinful.
I have read my Bible from cover to cover many times and never found any of these sins listed. But, this is what happens when man judges by appearance and not the by the spirit.
One thing the Baptists didn't think was sinful was gluttony. Many Baptists wer 200 pounds overweight. Gluttony is surely a sin if any are, but there were so many fat people in the church, they couldn't offend them by pointing it out. Also, they might lose a tithe payer if they offended them.
Their rules and regulations were so hard to keep and only caused me to reject them all. They never could see how contradictory or silly so many of their rules were. they were impossiuble to keep and only caused people to reject a God who was so strict.
Jennie, I know of only one store in my town that doesn't sell alcohol. But it does sell some movies that may be objectionable. We have to live in this world and unfortunaltely there aren't any perfect stores or businesses. We would have to starve and go without all our needs because we could never know where all the items we buy came from.
Isn't this like the story in 1 Cor.10:27 where Paul tells the believers not to ask questions about the meat they are eating for conscience sake.

jennie:
Boy, when you think about it there are so many more important things to think about aren't there? I am just so thankful that I do not have to live my life as I once did when I was so worried about appearances and what someone may think about me. It is freeing to let it all go and reach out to others in the way God is leading .
No worries Bobby, I just got back in town from our little annniversary trip. It was great: dirt roads, mountains , woods and streams. I love it out there!

eutychus:

--- Quote from: bobbys43 ---Shibbleth did you go to the same church I did???? We may know each other but don't realize it!!!LOL :lol:
 Actually our church was the same way! It was horrable for me as a christian then and I really never had the joy and security of knowing God loved me and did not want to punish me for an eternity in a hell of torment!!
 No one can live by those rules on their own and if I recall they never ever told you that it has to be Christ in you that will help you to not give in to the flesh!! They made it sound like it was totally up to you to do what was right in the sight of God!! I guess thats where that freewill thing came in on all that other false doctrine that was pushed in our ears!!
 I thank God for the blinding and the deafening because He has really shown me just what it is that He is doing in my life right now after he opened these eyes and ears!!!!
I hope this doen't sound silly!!! I can be a real tard sometimes!! #-o

bobby
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bobby , your right on !! how much more we love and appreciate the True Christ!!! after realizing his LOVE.

peace
chuckt

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