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Kat:
Hi Eirik,

This question really makes you think, and that is good.

It seems to me the question really is, why did God cause this evil experience for mankind?
We know that everything is working out exactly as God wants it to.
So why does God cause this evil experience for all mankind.
The very few chosen are not spared.
At first even the chosen were evil, before reconciled.

Col 1:21  You who were once alienated and hostile in mind, doing evil deeds, v.22 he has now reconciled by the death of his physical body so that he might present you holy, blameless, and without fault before him.

Until we are shown the truth, then sin does not rule us.

Rom 6:14  For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under law, but under grace.

After being chosen, we are not dominated by sin,
tho we can not be sinless while in the flesh, we are not evil.

In order to have this evil eperience, man must do evil.

Gen 8:21 ... "because the imagination of the heart of man is evil from his youth."

Jer 18:12  And they said, There is no hope; but we will walk after our own ways, and we will each one do according to the stubbornness of his evil heart.

God has created mankind in a spiritually weakened state,
they are totally incapable of understanding spiritual laws and principles.
Only the chosen can understand, tho dimly.

1Co 13:12  What we see now is like a dim image in a mirror; then we shall see face-to-face. What I know now is only partial; then it will be complete---as complete as God's knowledge of me.

It is God intention that mankind go against His will, for a great and beneficial purpose.
I think it is so hard for us to comprehend this, because we are living through it,
and suffering along with the rest of mankind.

God has chosen few, and those only after an evil experience.
I believe, that what is gained by this evil experience, is of such great value,
in the end, it will have been worth it, when all is one with God.

1Co 15:28  But when everything has been put under him, then the Son himself will also become subject to the one who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

So for now, we have to except that God is doing what is best for everyone now,
and later we all will understand why and realize the wisdom of it all.

1Co 2:9  But as it is written, "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined the things that God has prepared for those who love him."

Psa 103:11  How great is God's love for all who worship him? Greater than the distance between heaven and earth!

2Co 4:14  We know that God, who raised the Lord Jesus to life, will also raise us up with Jesus and take us, together with you, into his presence.
v.15  All this is for your sake; and as God's grace reaches more and more people, they will offer to the glory of God more prayers of thanksgiving.
v.16  For this reason we never become discouraged. Even though our physical being is gradually decaying, yet our spiritual being is renewed day after day.
v.17  And this small and temporary trouble we suffer will bring us a tremendous and eternal glory, much greater than the trouble.
v.18  For we fix our attention, not on things that are seen, but on things that are unseen. What can be seen lasts only for a time, but what cannot be seen lasts forever.

Well, that's the way I see it.

mercy, peace, and love
Kat

eggi:
I realize that asking questions could be seen as "borderline", however I didn't feel that this question was not a tolerable question. I agree that we cannot understand all of God's mind, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't be increasing in knowledge. We find verses like these in the Scriptures:

For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding; That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God; (Col 1:9-10 KJV)

This verse says something about why God designed the "many called/few chosen-scheme":

And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

So, clearly this way of doing things is giving God the preeminence!

I'm sorry if I offended some by this thread. That was not my intention. I'm a rather curious person, and I'm used to thinking in an analytical way, and I realize that this might not be appropriate from time to time.

Now I'll read through the rest of the posts and have a closer look at the verses you provided.
Thanks again!

God bless you and keep you,
Eirik

hillsbororiver:
Eirik,

I did not see anyone expressing offense or saying this was an intolerable question, where did you get that impression?

Questions and seeking His Wisdom or clarification of points being made is the reason this Forum exists.

Let us all edify and instruct each other with the knowledge that He has generously provided and pray that our egos or our carnal natures do not get in the way.

We are all better served to prayerfully discern answers and opinions not by who wrote them but by how they line up with scripture, it is too easy to fall into the personality pit.

His Peace and Wisdom to you Brother,

Joe

eggi:
Turns out that this whole thing was a misunderstanding. I was under the impression that the word "borderline" meant something like these lines:

# Relating to a condition characterized by a pattern of instability in mood, interpersonal relations, and self-image, and manifested by self-destructive, impulsive, and inconsistent behavior: the borderline syndrome.

Last night I came home quite tired from a long day of concerts, and as I read the post by dcfreedom, I guess I was sleepy and without attention. I felt that the word "borderline" suggested that I was out of my mind asking that question.

I was sad and a puzzled to read this, but later I understood that this was not what that word was meant to convey. I was reading things into that word, funny how that can happen sometimes. It is me who has to apologize.

hillsbororiver:
Good morning Eirik,

These things happen, no worries please  ;)

Every time we can get past the "small things" and grow together it pleases Him.

Thank you very much for your reply.

His Peace to you,

Joe

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