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mick24458:
Hi all, I'm a newbie to this forum. I've been reading Ray's stuff for about 5 months and it has really challenged my thinking on many theological fronts - hell, tithing, eschatology, free will, the trinity. I've been in Pentecostal churches ever since coming to a faith in Jesus and have always sought for my own answers to the many questions that arise, rather than just believing the teaching from the front. Ray's challenges, along with other reading that I have been doing, is making me re-examine much of what I believe and what my church teaches. I actually love my church and believe that the leadership is very sincere, though perhaps sincerely wrong on some issues. My real dilemma is that, as I read and research more, I find myself at odds with some of the teaching, which makes it a little difficult as I lecture in our Bible college and run Bible studies in my home.
I've been involved in a number of churches and have close association with people from many denominations and have now come to the conclusion that we all have our own "bells and smells and incense and nonsense and man-made doctrine".
Is it compromise to remain silent on some of these doctrines when wanting to keep fellowship with those who have honestly put their faith in Jesus and His death and resurrection? I'm open to your thoughts.

Kat:

Hi mick,

You ask,


--- Quote ---Is it compromise to remain silent on some of these doctrines when wanting to keep fellowship with those who have honestly put their faith in Jesus and His death and resurrection?
--- End quote ---

As you said, you are a teacher of the Word of God.


--- Quote ---I lecture in our Bible college and run Bible studies in my home.

--- End quote ---

You are having your eyes opened to the Truth of God's Word.
Do you really think you could, in your position, keep silent on the Truth being reviled to you?
Would you continue to teach all of the Truth, or just what fits in with the churches doctrines.
You are in a difficult situation, not unlike to some degree, what most of us here have had to face.

Consider this scripture.
 
Mat 12:36  But I say to you that every idle word, whatever men may speak, they shall give account of it in the day of judgment.
Mat 12:37  For by your words you shall be justified, and by your words you shall be condemned.

If you are seeing these Truths, you will also realize that you can not be apart of the church,
that teaches against the Truth.

 2Co 6:17  Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you,
2Co 6:18  and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty."

This is the narrow path, Matt 7:14, only a few will walk it.

mercy, peace, and love
Kat


hart4god:
Well Hello Mick,

In the Matter of being a Teacher at a Bible college- God might be calling you to count the cost of your Faith  and not look  back. Many of us have lost things in the process of gaining Christ. In personal Bible studies- that would be more open to truth you can be more true to what you know, but to be a teacher- that is a heavy thing in the eyes of God and when you know Truth but fail to teach it- well, not good for anyone involved. But I would not advocate being rebellious to your administration or rogue in your teaching when your are employed. You  may just need to leave that situation in the future.

Your path to this point in your journey is very much like many of us here and specifically identical to my own-   
27 years in non-denominational Christianity and 13 different churches....

I have many friends (and family memebers) at different stages of understanding and truth. I love them all and very infrequently feel led to address anyr errors. Sometimes we just kind of ponder the sovereignty of God in people's lives.....that gets them gently thinking about the whole free-will thing. But usually it is just in the context of God's profound love for them.. non-confrontational. I try very much to keep fellowship peaceful. God is doing the work in their lives in the same way He did in yours (and mine).....in His own way and timing.

We are under no compulsion to convert people or correct their errors. It is so much more productive to live and bear good fruit and let them see the Love of the Father in you. If they ask, I have a ready answer (altho, like you with only 7 months of study under my belt, my answer is not like a convincing argument....more like- search the Scriptures to see if these things are true).

So God Bless your faith and your journey and He willl direct your steps and words to your firends and in your teaching responsibilites day by day.


judie h.

Deborah-Leigh:
Hi Mick

I really feel for you!  Just separate yourself from your self for a moment...............

Put yourself in Saul before Paul's shoes. He too had to revoke everything he had been taught and  bought from of the teachings and attitudes cultivated in the Snynagoges. Saul had a high profile, he had a job description and a future career. These are all things that Mystery Babylon offers to her proselytes. I think it is great that you are called out. Only God can do that.

It is a drag and a painful one as you begin feeling the heresy and seeing the false teaching. It is a bigger shock if the Harlot sees you and recognises the image of Christ forming in you and strikes you out by projecting on you what is in fact her crimes of spiritual harlotry and adultery. These pains are the pains of real persecution that earn rewards and these fires lit inside your heart are the fires of purification. I celebrate what God is doing in your life. You are called.....I see He has given you trust in Him and I feel confident  and hopeful for what Christ has begun in you He will complete......

Arcturus :)

 

Layla:
Hi Mick

Follow the leading of the Holy Spirit and read Judie's post again... ;D  I especially like her thoughts regarding "counting the cost of your Faith" and her truthful words regarding we are not called to "convert" but rather to "witness".  God Bless and strengthen you in your walk.

Peace,
Layla

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