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[iris]

...not of WORKS

...unto GOOD WORKS

...not saved by OUR WORKS

...to walk in GOD'S GOOD WORKS

...shall try EVERY MAN'S WORK

   Having all our WORKS TRIED...

I'm not sure I understand what is meant by "WORKS". Is it everything we do everyday, or talking to

others about God's Kingdom or what?  Could someone help me to understand this.


Iris

[Deborah-Leigh]

Hello Iris

After I read your post this teaching came to mind.

Winning Souls for Jesus?  new

You will find it on the home page.

Peace to you

Arcturus

[ned]

...not of WORKS

...unto GOOD WORKS

...not saved by OUR WORKS

...to walk in GOD'S GOOD WORKS

...shall try EVERY MAN'S WORK

 Having all our WORKS TRIED...

I'm not sure I understand what is meant by "WORKS". Is it everything we do everyday, or talking to

others about God's Kingdom or what? Could someone help me to understand this.

Iris

Hello Iris,
To me, works is everything we do everyday, which includes talking to others about God's Kingdom, however - taking heed WHO we should be talking to about God's kingdom.

Here is the greek definition;
G2041   ἔργον   ergon   er'-gon
From ἔργω ergō (a primary but obsolete word; to work); toil (as an effort or occupation); by implication an act: - deed, doing, labour, work.

Note, in all the verses mentioned in Ray's excerpt provided by Joe, that our own works is not what we are justified by, but by doing Gods' works, which He puts in us to do;
Phil2:13, For it is God which works in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. What an awesome verse!

When we are doing God's will, His good works will shine through us.

I believe there is so much more instruction that God sets forth for us in His Word that we need to take heed to, in understanding how our works can only be made good by His good works.  My reply hasn't even made a dent.  Maybe other members can add to this??

Love,
Marie

[Deborah-Leigh]

Hello Marie

You wrote:

My reply hasn't even made a dent.

I don't want to puff you up but your post did make a dent for me....it showed your love and time you were led to invest to encourage and uplift Iris. This for me shows how Jesus is working in your life to bless us with His life in you.

Peace to you

Arcturus   

[ned]

Peace to you

Arcturus

"And also to you." Arcturus.

Love,
Marie

[Deborah-Leigh]

HEY Iris!

Your question stuck with me even after I posted what I was seeing at the time.

While I was studying LOF part 6...the following exploded into my mind!

You wrote.....I'm not sure I understand what is meant by "WORKS". Is it everything we do everyday, or talking to

others about God's Kingdom or what?  Could someone help me to understand this.


This is what I read......EVERY thought, EVERY word, EVERY deed, that proceeds out of the heart and mind of man is HIS WORKS!Unquote

This made sense to me because in Revelations it copies back for me through the following :

Rev 21 : 12.....And the dead were judged, sentenced by what they had done, their whole way of feeling, and acting, their aims and endeavors, in accordance with what was recorded in the books. 13. ....and all were tried and their cases determined by what they had done, according to their motives, aims and works.

This realization really blessed me! At Bible School  I was taught a very allien, off the wall idea, that only served to make me feel very depressed.

Peace to you
Arcturus

[Karen]

AMEM JOYCE TO THE FIRST WORDS YOU WROTE. FOR I DO FEEL THE SAME WAY
AT TIMES. KAREN

[iris]

Thank you Arcturus for the time you spent with answering my Question. 

I have been over LOF part 6 twice, but i went back over that page again (page 5...

I printed each part (or paper) up so I didn't have to always be on the internet

while studing it.) 

Thanks again!!!

Iris

[hillsbororiver]

Our (spiritual) works will increase as we decrease.

There are times when I truly get sick of the world and all of its lies, duplicity, lust, envy, hatred, etc. Then I realize that I am truly disgusted with mySELF!

When the world affects me in a negative way it should be a red flag to my spirit that I am not focused on Him, whose "yolk is light," but rather focused on my own idealism and not His plan. When I read and reread what attributes are the "fruits of the Spirit" I realize how much of a spiritual toddler I am.

His Peace and Wisdom to you,

Joe

[Robin]

This thread was a real trigger for me so I had to stay away from a reply. God seems to throw me into the stories of the bible and I seem to live them in my life. It's quite amazing. The exit from Egypt was miraculous.

I've been pretty much thrown into Job right now. When this thread was first started I broke out with shingles. I kind of laughed saying here come the boils. A couple of days ago my blood test was positive for possibly having Lupus so I have to go see a specialist on Wednesday. I've been in intense pain.

When I first read this thread Job's complaints brought tears to my eyes and opened my heart with expression to God. It is the first time in years. I've created quite a hard shell trying to endure. Last night I was sitting on my porch and realized just how powerful God is. I can see his  power in my suffering. I almost felt like Job putting my hand over my mouth in awe of God's power. All I could say is I believe. I believe God can calm the raging wind and sea. I believe God can raise the dead. I believe God can turn water into wine. I believe God can part the Red Sea. I believe God is in complete control of what was, what is and what is to come. I believe that he can save all. I believe in the glory of God and the wisdom of God and the power of God and the mercy of God and the love of God. Do I feel all of that. No. I feel pain and suffering right now.

There are great lessons in pain and suffering. Through suffering I learned that there is no good thing in me. Through suffering I learned that there is no free will. Through suffering I learned that I can do nothing in and of myself. Through suffering I saw a glimpse of the heart of the Father. Through suffering I saw the miracles of God within me that brought healing from my emotional damage and released me from the bondage of sins that were tied to that damage. Through suffering I learned that Christ died for me personally. Through suffering I learned that all things are provided by God and if he withholds there is nothing in my power that can change that. I've learned that the judgment of God is with mercy and love. It is never a punishment.

I learned that I am not a victim of random evil and that God designs every circumstance in my life to fulfill his calling in my life and in the lives of those around me. I am still carnal and I am still being dragged and I still kick and cry and throw a tantrum, but God will win. One day I will put my hand over my mouth for more than a day or two.

Hugs to all,
MG

[Deborah-Leigh]

Hello MG

My head is still shaking from side to side not being able to capture the wonder and emotion and thoughts that are inspired by your testimony....only to say that for me, your post speaks in spirit and in truth....Spirit and in Truth Jesus told us that God is seeking such as you to worship Him...What a rare privilage to see His work in you MG

......Remember me......were the words Jesus heard spoken to Him as He suffered on His cross......remember me......

Peace and love to you

Arcturus

[hillsbororiver]

This thread was a real trigger for me so I had to stay away from a reply. God seems to throw me into the stories of the bible and I seem to live them in my life. It's quite amazing. The exit from Egypt was miraculous.

I've been pretty much thrown into Job right now. When this thread was first started I broke out with shingles. I kind of laughed saying here come the boils. A couple of days ago my blood test was positive for possibly having Lupus so I have to go see a specialist on Wednesday. I've been in intense pain.

When I first read this thread Job's complaints brought tears to my eyes and opened my heart with expression to God. It is the first time in years. I've created quite a hard shell trying to endure. Last night I was sitting on my porch and realized just how powerful God is. I can see his  power in my suffering. I almost felt like Job putting my hand over my mouth in awe of God's power. All I could say is I believe. I believe God can calm the raging wind and sea. I believe God can raise the dead. I believe God can turn water into wine. I believe God can part the Red Sea. I believe God is in complete control of what was, what is and what is to come. I believe that he can save all. I believe in the glory of God and the wisdom of God and the power of God and the mercy of God and the love of God. Do I feel all of that. No. I feel pain and suffering right now.

There are great lessons in pain and suffering. Through suffering I learned that there is no good thing in me. Through suffering I learned that there is no free will. Through suffering I learned that I can do nothing in and of myself. Through suffering I saw a glimpse of the heart of the Father. Through suffering I saw the miracles of God within me that brought healing from my emotional damage and released me from the bondage of sins that were tied to that damage. Through suffering I learned that Christ died for me personally. Through suffering I learned that all things are provided by God and if he withholds there is nothing in my power that can change that. I've learned that the judgment of God is with mercy and love. It is never a punishment.

I learned that I am not a victim of random evil and that God designs every circumstance in my life to fulfill his calling in my life and in the lives of those around me. I am still carnal and I am still being dragged and I still kick and cry and throw a tantrum, but God will win. One day I will put my hand over my mouth for more than a day or two.

Hugs to all,
MG

Dear MG,

Very well written and stated, it is true that the OT Prophets experiences should mirror our own. It is quite the revelation when we see these things that were written pertain to us in our walk with Him.

Rom 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

1Cor 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

James 5:10 Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience

His Love and Peace to you,

Joe

[gmik]

MG so sorry to hear you have Lupus.  My prayers are with you.  My step-father has it and I know how he suffers. When I hear of everyones problems I just feel so bad for you all and do keep you in my prayers.  I truly am humbled by all of you.  The wisdom you all share from your pain is truly inspiring.

In rereading this entire thread I am just amazed.  I have never had such a great church experience as this, nor feel such a closeness with my brothers & sisters than I have here. And no church I have ever been to had an Nth of this wisdom.  This isn't a forum.  This is the body of Christ fellowshipping.

Consider yourselves hugged!!

Love,
gena