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Soul, body, spririt
Craig:
Ray,
I enjoy your writings. I have been studying you writings for several months. Trying the Spirits if you will. I love the way you use scripture after scripture.
In installment 16 part C of the lake of fire series section "Satan's Trinity of Man" you condemn the idea of the Body, Soul, and Spirit being 3 separate things. In all of your writings it seems that you feel that the flesh and soul are the same in which you have a lot of convincing scripture. Please explain 2 Thess 5:23 where the body, soul, and spirit are listed separately as 3 separate things. Also in Heb 4:12 the joints and marrow (flesh) soul and spirit are divided by the sword of the of the word of God.
Thanks
Walan
Dear Waylan:
It is true that we all speak of "THE soul" as if there is a separate entity inside of our body that is called "the soul." Not true. Without the spirit there is NO SOUL. Without the body there is NO SOUL. Take a blue piece if transparent plastic or cellophane. Place it half way over a same size piece of yellow cellophane. You will have blue on one side, yellow on the other, and GREEN in the middle. The blue is the body, the yellow is the spirit, and the GREEN IS THE SOUL. Notice that there is NO SOUL without the blue body and the yellow spirit. Separate the blue and yellow cellophane and the GREEN soul disappears. This is exactly how the human soul must be combined with a body and spirit, or IT DOES NOT EVEN EXIST. They are very closely related and appear to overlap, but there are distinction between soul and spirit. Understood? Good.
God be with you,
Ray
Falconn003:
Why oh why is the soul so hard to grasp an idea...
Leave it to the secular churches to mess this fomula up indeed.
Rodger
Craig:
Ray,
Thanks for your response,
I do understand the analogy but this analogy does not explain why the body, soul and spirit are broken out into 3 different entities in the scriptures mentioned. Please don't misunderstand me. I am not trying to be argumentative at all. In fact, I think that God is opening my eyes to a lot of false teachings (idols of the heart) that I have held to my whole life. But these are the only verses that seem to contradict any of your teachings. These verses seem contradict the "flesh & soul being 1" concept. I notice in your writings that you go to great lengths to give at least 2 scriptural witness to everything you teach. Here are two witnesses that seem to say that the body, soul, and spirit are separate entities. I'm sure that I am not the first to bring this up. Please if you could commit on these verses.
Waylan
You have to get out of out if your head the idea that the spirit soul and body are "separate entities" as if they could function independently of each other. Remember my TV analogy of six years ago? The console is the body, the picture is the soul, and the electricity is the spirit. Yes, they are "entities," if you will that have distinct names, and functions, but none of them produces anything independent of each other. Smash the console and you have not soul (picture). Pull the plug and you have not soul (picture).
Likewise remove the spirit, and the body dies. Remove the spirit and the soul disappears. Smash the body and the soul disappears. The soul IS THE SENTIENT man. The emotional, thinking, conscious man. This consciousness is called "soul." It is not a thing that can literally travel or go somewhere independent of the body and brain. That is why it is said in the Greek Scriptures that at death the soul goes to hades. Hades means the unseen, the emperceptible, unconsciousness.
It take spirit from God in a body to give it live, which life is then called "a LIVING SOUL."
It tkes a little meditation to understand these concepts.
God be with you,
Ray
love_magnified:
That's a pretty darn clear explanation.
Sorin:
--- Quote from: love_magnified ---That's a pretty darn clear explanation.
--- End quote ---
I second that.
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