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brothertoall

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Spirtually blind
« on: November 13, 2006, 01:20:53 PM »

I cannot help but comment on this email to Ray. Mine is in red:

 A True Man of Doctrine
« on: Yesterday at 10:41:57 AM » 

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> Dear Mr. Smith,
>
> You are amazing. You are the first person I have come across who
> knows more than Almighty God. Every one who does not agree with your
> false teaching is carnally minded. How can you call believers carnal
> minded when you do not believe in the baptism of the Holy Spirit,
> who you call an "it". He (The Holy Spirit) is grieved when you make
> such blasphemous statements in your papers, not rightly dividing the
> Word of God, and you will be held accountable (Matt 12:31-37)36But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

 37For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

. Prov.
> 30:5-6 declares, "Every word of God is pure: He is a shield to unto
> them who put their trust in Him. Add not unto His words, lest He
> reprove thee, and thou be found a liar." Eve added to Gods word

God said:Genesis 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.


> when she said "neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die". Nothing happened
> when she touched it because God never said not to. When she did,
> disaster followed, and you o man a re doing the same thing. His word
> will never go back to Him void.
>
> When you declare that God is going to save satan, you are out of
> your gourd!!!

Colossians 1:19-21 19For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

 20And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

 21And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled






 How much value do you ascribe to the blood of Jesus? Apparently NIL
> since you do not partake of Holy Communion, in direct disobedience
> to the will and commandment of the Lord Jesus!!!

1 Corinthians 11:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.I do not see any comandment here. I remember Him every single minute , hour, and day of my life.


God purchased His
> Church with His own blood! (Acts 20:32). Jesus' blood was not shed
> for angels much less satan. "Forasmuch then as the children are
> partakers of flesh and blood, He (Jesus) partook of of the same: that
> through death He might destroy him who HAD the power of death that is
> the devil and delivered them who through fear of death were all their
> lifetime subject to bondage. For verily He took
> not on Him the nature of angels but He took took on Him the SEED OF
> ABRAHAM. Wherefore in ALL things it behooved HIM TO BE MA DE LIKE HIS
> BRETHREN, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in
> things pertaining to God to make propitiation for the sins of the
> people." (Heb 2:14-17) The Mormons claim that satan is Jesus'
> brother. Is this why you say that satan will be saved?
>
> You also claim that God is going to save all the world. I agree with
> you,
Contradiction.but will all the world be saved? NOT SO, for the same reason
> that it is Gods will that all be healed,
> but are all healed? NO. How come? UNBELIEF!
> When the leper asked Jesus if He was willing to heal him, Jesus said
> I WILL, and Jesus never spoke anything but what He heard from the
> Father. When the centurion came to Jesus regarding his dying
> servant, Jesus voluntarily said "I WIll come and heal him!!!
>
> When the apostles could not cast the demon out from a young boy, His
> father told Jesus, "If you can do any thing, have compassion on us
> and help us". Jesus said unto him, "If YOU can believe, All things
> are possible to him that believeth". When Jesus came into Nazareth,
> (Mk 6:5) He could do no mighty work, and He marveled at their
> UNBELIEF. MY bible tells me that " Jesus Christ is the same
> yesterday, today, and forever!!! Do the countless translations of
> the bible you proudly brag to possess say the same? If they do, it
> still boils down to only one thing, FAITH!!

John 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

> Mr. Smith, deep down inside, do you believe that you are truly
> saved? Could this be the reason why you believe that every one
> will be saved? including satan, hoping that you will not be left
> out? I say this because, it is very clear to me that you do not
> understand the inestimable value of the blood of Jesus. His blood is
> still speaking today through the Holy Spirit (Heb 9:14 & Heb
> 12:24-29). JEHOV AH the Holy Spirit spoke in Jeremiah 31;31-34 and
> bears witness to what HE said in Heb 10:15-17.
>
> You are a Pied Piper, leading (only God knows) how many people to
> destruction by another Gospel, "The gospel according to L Ray
> Smith". The bible says "Though we or an angel from Heaven, preach
> any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you
> let him be accursed" (Gal 1:
>
> I am not judging you personally, I am letting Gods word speak through
> His blood.

Luke 6:37 37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

John 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

> Sincerely
> Scott

Feel better now?
Ray

Let us all pray for this young man,

bobby
« Last Edit: November 14, 2006, 09:01:46 AM by brothertoall »
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dogcombat

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Re: Spirtually blind
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2006, 03:23:20 PM »

Part of me laughs at the carnal vent of Scott's email to Ray, and then another part of me cries sadly to his(Scott's) blindness.  Only in God's appointed time will Scott and other critics of Ray's writings (especially those who never bothered to read any of his papers) have their veils removed to see God's Truths.  Until then, all we can do is pray for them, and Ray too.

Ches 
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joyful1

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Re: Spirtually blind
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2006, 04:02:24 PM »

Bobby and Dogcombat--
Do you feel that we are to continue to preach in and out of season......."just in case" they are chosen? I tend to look at it this way....if Ray had not taken the time to put up his web site....I might literally still be in Babylon and not even know it!! So, even though I do not go "knocking on doors"....I do speak up....always ready for the blows that will surely come....but nonetheless I go ahead ...most times and speak it now! Am I wrong?
:)
just wondering?
Joyce
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dogcombat

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Re: Spirtually blind
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2006, 10:36:27 AM »

Hi Joyce,

The answer is yes, continue to preach "in season and out of season".  My point regarding Scott's email was that he didn't bother to READ (emphasis mine) the material on Ray's site.  In fact, much of what Ray calls 99.44% of his nameless detractors, DON'T take the time to read his material.  As Ray has replied often, only God can open people's to see His glorious truths that He will "have all men saved and come into the knowledge of Christ". 

Joyce, if you feel led by the Spirit to offer a kind word, favor, encouragement.  This is God reaching someone near you.  Thus Holy Spirit will take it from there as we die to our flesh.  Which we all know ain't easy.

Ches
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joyful1

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Re: Spirtually blind
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2006, 12:23:04 PM »

I get it...thanks! :)
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SandyFla

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Re: Spirtually blind
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2006, 04:38:52 PM »

Hi Joyce,

I'm one of those who heard the truth of universal salvation many years ago and regarded it as a "doctine of demons." I joined a discussion board that I think was run by JWs. They never gave me a single Scripture to back it up, so I left. That was probably 6 or 7 years ago.

Yet, here I am today believing the very thing that I thought was heretical. But not before God took me through a few detours.

Remember that faith comes from God - Ephesians 2:8. Those who are scoffing today could become believers tomorrow, or next month, or next year. It's all up to God.  :)

Sandy
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