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brothertoall:
Part of the hope I have in Christ Jesus is that ALL things will be made new in and through Him.

 My hope is that there will be no more pain,crying,disappointments,hatred,homelessness,poverty,discease,sin,deciet,etc...

I believe that God has the power and authority to abolish all that.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Revelation 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make ALL things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

bobby

 

YellowStone:
Joe and Eggi,

I gues I am deeply saddened. For eggie wrote:

I don't agree that this is just a small issue, a "who cares?" subject.

I guess this is a pivotal issue after all and somehow I am less of person in both of your eyes.

Why should I be forced to Care what any other thinks when my focus is on the love that God is constantly giving me and what I am showing others.

Do tou both really care that I don't necessarily believe because God has not yet opened my eyes to see.

In God I trust,
Darren

hillsbororiver:
Darren,

You absolutely not "less of a person" because of any disagreement or because of a difference in understanding. You are a valued member here. I am sure there are many here that would agree.

My response to eggi was a "well done" for the work he obviously put into his post.

His Peace to you my Brother,

Joe   

 

YellowStone:
Joe,

My last post was in no way an attack on you or eggi. :)

I just want to demostrate the futility of debating obscure doctrine (not clearly defined or pivotal to the truth)

Of course I know that God has all power and can do anything he wants. My question is, just because he can, does not mean he must.

This concept of "can - must" is limiting God.

I am open to idea of Satan being "saved" it is just that God has not granted me complete understanding on the subject.

How about this for a concept. I believe God is in everything, but I do not believe that God is in Satan. God created Satan but is not in Satan because there is no truth (God is truth) in him.

After the Lake of Fire, what is left? Remember the possible meaning of the word destryed? ANULLED

Main Entry: anˇnul
Pronunciation: &-'n&l
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): anˇnulled; anˇnulˇling
Etymology: Middle English annullen, from Anglo-French annuller, from Late Latin annullare, from Latin ad- + nullus not any -- more at NULL
1 : to reduce to nothing : OBLITERATE
2 : to make ineffective or inoperative : NEUTRALIZE <annul the drug's effect>
3 : to declare or make legally invalid or void <wants the marriage annulled>

Do you see my point. God will still be all in all, but there is no Satan.

Once again, this is not a pivotal issue and I will post again the words of Paul

Philippians 3:12-16
12 - Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me.
13 - Brothers, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead,
14 - I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.
15 - All of us who are mature should take such a view of things. And if on some point you think differently, that too God will make clear to you.
16 - Only let us live up to what we have already attained.

I think this little debate has run it's cause, at least from my perspective.

Love to All,
Darren

eggi:
Darren,

You say:


--- Quote ---I guess this is a pivotal issue after all and somehow I am less of person in both of your eyes.
--- End quote ---

I said no such thing! You are not less of a person in my eyes! Nobody is less of a person in my eyes.

Here is how I see it:

Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. (Rom 14:1-4 KJV)

You say that you are forced to care about what others think. How can you suggest that I'm forcing you to care about it? It is completely out of my hands to force you to even consider what I'm writing.

As I said in my post:
I am in no way trying to beat anyone in their heads with what I believe. If I am wrong about this, I'm ready to stand corrected!

Darren, I'm sorry you were deeply saddened by my post. It is not pleasant to hear that someone was offended deeply by something you said. However, I know that I did not mean to even suggest that you are less of a person. This is something that you read into the words that I wrote. As much as I would want you to not do that, it is really out of my control.

I, for one, do not know everything about the Scriptures. I don't possess all wisdom and knowledge. That doesn't mean that I should just settle with what I know, and just stop there. It is true, we should hold on to what we know, but we should also progress:

Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit. (Heb 6:1-3 KJV)

"Leaving the principles" does not suggest that we forget about them. Paul is saying that there is more to know, always more to learn. This we will do, if God permits. I'm well aware of the fact that God has revealed the things I know to me, it is not of myself. Therefore I know that there is a possibility that I might wake up tomorrow and these truths will be taken away from me. This is in itself a motivation to continue the walk, to work on the salvation with fear and trembling:

Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. (Phi 2:12 KJV)

So again Darren, I'm sorry for offending you, and forgive me for hurting you deeply. Remember this:

Working out our salvation is not of us, but of Him that worketh in us both to will and to do of his good pleasure (Phi 2:13).

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