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shibboleth:
The fact that most people think church is a building or a meeting, shows how far from the Biblical truth most people are. The church is people, not buildings. Whenever a church building is destroyed in a fire, parishioners cry about their church being destroyed. I always think, no, you are the church. The building was destroyed, not the church. It is so hard to get people to see this. They have it drummed in their heads that you go to church every Sunday or Wednesday.
I went to a Presbyterian church and the pastor said that we weren't in church during Bible study or Sunday school. It was only when we were at the service where a sermon was given. He talked about the visible and invisible church. I asked him if we would be a church if noone was saved. He didn't know what to say. I always believed church was so much more than a Sunday meeting. Now I know I can have church here on this forum, on the phone, when I meet someone I can tell about my Lord or whatever.
Jennie, your story just broke my heart. Doesn't it sound like the Bible story about the good samaritan who was the only one who helped the helpless man who was unable to help himself. Doesn't the Bible say we are to help sinners, and maybe God will show them His wonderful love and they could see how much God loved them. Isn't it the love of God that brings us to Him? His beautiful, all encompassing grace and mercy for us that is so irresistable. I see that in so many people here on this forum.
Your ex-pastor hasn't aclue about what God really values, if he believes a building is more important than feeding babies.
A woman I met on the bus needed some help with her home and I asked my ex-pastor if we could help her. He asked if she could pay us for our time. I almost burst a blood vessel. We had helped another man years earlier and noone asked him for money. I told the pastor this and he didn't say a word. We never did help her, but I am through with organized church. I am glad for a few here who have nice church people and pastors. My experience hasn't been as good. We just have to remember that church is about people, not programs, meetings, agendas, or buildings.
isn'
jennie:
Can you imagine what a different world this would be if we reached out to people that cross our path? Sometimes it doesn't even have to be financially but just a listening ear. Me and my husband met a man yesterday. Boy , did we have a day of drama! His parents are up in years so we have to do a lot for them but we do it with happy hearts because we still have them with us. We had to go to the pharmacy for some prescriptions for them and there was this rather young (maybe in his 30's) man there waiting also. I said Good Morning to him and we all got to talking. Turns out he has had 3 heart attacks and all his family but 2 brothers have died at young ages from this genetic heart problem they have. He is all alone in this world now. He seemed starved for conversation so we all talked as we waited. When we got ready to go, he shook our hands and thanked us for talking to him. He said most people just walk away. So many people are so lonely. As you all can tell from my post , I can talk forever! I told him where we lived and that he was welcome anytime and I would cook a pan of biscuits for him. He had told me he missed his Momma's biscuits. all people want is for us to take some time and really see them.
jennie:
Bobby, you and your family are welcome here anytime. Come on by and we'll all have biscuits and gravy together!
Patrick:
Man, I love biscuits & gravy too. I'll be in Commerce, GA next weekend :wink:
Very touching stories.
I was hauling motorcycles from Daytona back to Phoenix and pulled in to a rest area. As I stopped the truck, I noticed a man walking up to the cab. Normally, I am very cautious about this type of scenario, however this time I felt in my heart he needed help. I jumped out of the cab and locked the door (flesh coming out). He told me about being down on his luck, trying to get back to his family, and being very low on gasoline and no one in the rest area would help him. He needed fuel or money to get back to a station so he could continue on down the road.
This has happened several times.
There have also been times where I did not help someone and have this sick feeling in my gut for several hours. I actually walked away from a friend crying out for help so I could go have lunch with a girl. The lunch was not very good that day and I have not seen that girl again, nor have I seen that friend either. :cry:
God bless ya'll, have a great day everyone!
Patrick
YellowStone:
--- Quote from: jennie ---Can you imagine what a different world this would be if we reached out to people that cross our path? Sometimes it doesn't even have to be financially but just a listening ear. Me and my husband met a man yesterday. Boy , did we have a day of drama! His parents are up in years so we have to do a lot for them but we do it with happy hearts because we still have them with us. We had to go to the pharmacy for some prescriptions for them and there was this rather young (maybe in his 30's) man there waiting also. I said Good Morning to him and we all got to talking. Turns out he has had 3 heart attacks and all his family but 2 brothers have died at young ages from this genetic heart problem they have. He is all alone in this world now. He seemed starved for conversation so we all talked as we waited. When we got ready to go, he shook our hands and thanked us for talking to him. He said most people just walk away. So many people are so lonely. As you all can tell from my post , I can talk forever! I told him where we lived and that he was welcome anytime and I would cook a pan of biscuits for him. He had told me he missed his Momma's biscuits. all people want is for us to take some time and really see them.
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Jennie, If what you just stated is not "giving of yourself' (tithing) then I know not what is.
That was inspiring :)
Much love,
Darren
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