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Well, I've finally come to accept (mostly lol)...
Indagator:
Hmm, this is going well :). It also reminds me that there are a couple of things I need to read again :lol: . If I get something else soon, I'll pop back in.
bobf:
--- Quote from: ertsky ---right on bobf !
i really got something great from your post
f
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Thanks ertsky! I'm glad that blessed you. Here is something else I saw about this Isaiah passage. It sounds an awful lot like this verse in Revelation.
Isaiah 66:20 And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD.
Revelation 21:26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
So then we have folks entering the city AFTER the New Jerusalem has come down from the heavens.
ertsky:
--- Quote ---God sends these chosen back to the Gentiles to retrieve all their brethren into the holy city as an offering to the Lord.
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--- Quote ---So then we have folks entering the city AFTER the New Jerusalem has come down from the heavens.
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this sort of stuff is way WAY over my understanding
lately i'm realising again how much i've got to make more time to study.
i mean i haven't even begun to get a handle on the plan as it is concealed in the OT types
but i'll be sure to keep these things in mind as i finally find time to study more
i've just got to take more time for His Word
thanks bobf
ertsky:
oh hang on, i understand the new jerusalem to BE the elect
so how would that fit with this, entering what city ?
well as you can tell i'm a bit fuzzy at the moment
--- Quote ---So then we have folks entering the city AFTER the New Jerusalem has come down from the heavens.
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oh well maybe after i have a kip it will all become clearer
i'm almost passing out with tiredness, must get some sleep :)
f
bobf:
--- Quote from: ertsky ---oh hang on, i understand the new jerusalem to BE the elect so how would that fit with this, entering what city ?
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Mikes spiritual meaning of words says the New Jerusalem is God's people. Also it is the bride of Christ. http://www.*not-allowed*.com/words.html
Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
As you can see, people do enter into the holy city. First only the elect enter. According to Revelation the elect are those who overcome the world. According to Isaiah 66:19 they are the ones who 'escape' (i.e endure) the judgment of God.
Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, [which is] new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and [I will write upon him] my new name.
Christ makes the elect pillars in the temple of God within the city.
Revelation 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
And the city is the bride of God.
Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. 18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. 19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.
God rejoices in New Jerusalem and HER people. Apparently God's people as a whole ARE the city.
So if you look back on the Revelation & Isaiah verses I quoted, my point was that both passages say the same thing: That those who 'escape' or 'overcome' will become God's priests and He will send them bring their brethren from the nations into the holy city. So they too will be God's people.
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