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rrammfcitktturjsp:
Joe,

  Got a question is there any written notes about Ray's Mobil COnference given in September.  I would like to read those if they are available.  Can you post the link in the window if it is available?

  Thanks.


  Sincerely,


  Anne C. McGuire

hillsbororiver:
Hi Anne,

Craig has posted the audio from the Conference but the written notes were more of an outline than anything else. Ray would veer off in many different directions as one topic or verse would dovetail into another train of thought. This is why I wouldn't miss the chance of attending a Conference, the treasures are piling up from start to finish, leaving all those who were there wanting more.

Have you tried downloading any of the audios yet?

His Peace and Wisdom to you,

Joe     

longhorn:
Lucy, my chicken who sleeps on the front porch on a pillow of hay next to my two cats, survived an attack from an angry and hungry raccoon last night, so all is good and well here in east Teaxas, as far as the the evolution crap goes, we here at the farm could care less.

Love in Christ

Longhorn

Deborah-Leigh:
Hey Lonhorn

Happy to hear about Lucy.   :D The chickens walk the streets quite freely here in my part of the world unless they just disappear because they become someone's dinner! :o

As for the evolution crap goes,, ......can't say I am not interested.....would be good for the dinner pot to see a chicken become a Turkey ;D.....What's that about speaking as a fool ;D :o

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

andrevan:
Dear Tim, my heart rejoices at hearing that this thread helped you. We should never underestimate the methods God uses to call us out of the dark and into the light (the Truth!). I hope this thread (and links) helps your wife with her new faith, I pray it helps her seperate scientific fact from science fiction  ;D.

There have been many good points made on this thread, they were a benefit to me. The subject of mutations is interesting, as Joe correctly stated, mutations do occur. We know that speciation also occurs, as does natural selection and adaptation. What these mechanism do not do is create new, different & previously non-existent life forms, not even gradually.

Bacteria have very fast generation cycles, the cycles may be as short as 15 minutes (they multiply real quick). After scientists subject bacteria to huge amounts of genetic mutations over long periods of time, what is their status after all these mutations? They were still bacteria, they did not mutate into anything else. More importantly they have not gained any new ex nihilo genetic code. Better get some more nails for that evolutionary coffin  ;). This is the most necessary requirement for the evolution of all life from a primordial cell(s) to work. This one scientific fact destoys the half-baked story of biological evolution.

Think of how many breeds of dogs or cats we have today. How was this done? Through breeding by selection, similar to natural (in the wild) selection. The 'purer' the breed, the less genetic variation that breed contains, compared to a mixed breed. A small dog breed has no more genetic code for large size, it has been lost. This is opposite to what the evolution of life demands.

What I observe from nature: creatures always reproduce after themselves, just as God ordained it in Genesis 1.

Some time ago when I read through Darwin's "The Origin of Species by means of Natural Selection or, The Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life", I was drawn to the part in bold, it still makes me feel sick today. Just recently Richard Dawkins, the high priest of atheism, alluded to this type of thing, namely eugenics, in his letter to Scotland's Sunday Herald. Eugenics is something Hitler used to promote his genocide. Darwin's theory of natural selection has a dark side to it when it comes to mankind.

As for intelligent design, how many of their leaders give God our Father and His Son the credit for the amazing life and universe around us?

For me personally, I believe 1 Timothy 4:10 and Exodus 20:11, 31:17 and Mark 10:6 by faith. I believe God's Word, not man's (scientist's) assumptions  :).

Love to you all.
Andrevan.

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