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Brett:
Hi,

I am not sure I can understand what mean Ray's response. It is from "email to Ray" in forum today:

Dear Ray, God created  satan perfect. Eze. 28:13 -15  -? ?
Dorothy


No, Dorothy, God created the WASTER (Satan) to destroy (Isa.54:16).
God's hand created the CROOKED SERPENT (Satan). (Job 26:13)
God created the SERPENT more subtle than any other beast of the field (Gen. 3:1)
Satan was a murderer and a liar FROM THE BEGINNING (John 8:44).
Satan was a sinner FROM THE BEGINNING (I John 3:8.
Etc.,
God be with you,
Ray


I always though that God created Satan but he said 'no'. But then he said that God created waster, crooked serpent, etc. But to me, 'waster' is Satan and 'crooked serpent' and 'serpent' is Satan. I know the scriptures not say that 'God created Satan' but when the scriptures mentions of waster and serpent, but who is waster and serpent? Satan, therefor, it is like God created Satan. Am I right though? Unless, I may misunderstood/missing Ray's response? Hope you can help some with that ;).

Thanks! :D

Brett

Craig:
Brett,

I think he was referring to the word "perfect"

And used those other terms for satan, the Bible does not use the word "perfect"


Craig

SandyFla:

--- Quote from: Brett on December 12, 2006, 01:38:19 PM ---Hi,

I am not sure I can understand what mean Ray's response. It is from "email to Ray" in forum today:

Dear Ray, God created  satan perfect. Eze. 28:13 -15  -? ?
Dorothy


No, Dorothy, God created the WASTER (Satan) to destroy (Isa.54:16).
God's hand created the CROOKED SERPENT (Satan). (Job 26:13)
God created the SERPENT more subtle than any other beast of the field (Gen. 3:1)
Satan was a murderer and a liar FROM THE BEGINNING (John 8:44).
Satan was a sinner FROM THE BEGINNING (I John 3:8.
Etc.,
God be with you,
Ray


I always though that God created Satan but he said 'no'. But then he said that God created waster, crooked serpent, etc. But to me, 'waster' is Satan and 'crooked serpent' and 'serpent' is Satan. I know the scriptures not say that 'God created Satan' but when the scriptures mentions of waster and serpent, but who is waster and serpent? Satan, therefor, it is like God created Satan. Am I right though? Unless, I may misunderstood/missing Ray's response? Hope you can help some with that ;).

Thanks! :D

Brett
--- End quote ---

That passage is directed to the King of Tyre, not Satan. See verse 11:

11 The word of the LORD came to me: 12 "Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says:
       " 'You were the model of perfection,
       full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
 13 You were in Eden ...

sj:
Brett,

I think it is clear, as you stated, that God created satan... the scriptures state "All things were made through Him (Christ or The Word), and without Him nothing was made that was made." This would include satan, since he is a created being.

The question was, does Ezek. 28 say that God make satan perfect? Ray answered "No" because those scriptures do not speak of satan, but instead, as SandyFla stated, they speak of the King of Tyre.

Satan isn't "perfect" because he walks in darkness, he never has been "perfect" because he was sinner/murder/liar from the beginning...

But satan is "perfect for what he was created to do"... in other words, they're could not be a better "destroyer," "crooked serpent, or plain ol' "serpent" than the devil himself, because he is a necessary part of God's plan.


Nice to meet you =)
Josh

Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Josh

You say : But satan is "perfect for what he was created to do"...

....yes! for me...that is perfectly stated! :D

Good lead Craig and helpful insight Sandy

Peace to you :)

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