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Romans 8:28 - My revelation for the day
rrammfcitktturjsp:
Greetings to all,
I just read "Which Bible is Best" on Ray's website and found the following.
"TAKING FROM GOD’S WORD:
"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God…" (Rom. 8:28).
Oh really? Is this verse from the King James Version even true? How many billions of times has this verse been quoted, and it isn’t even true! Things do NOT "work together for good." That is absurd. "THINGS" can’t do anything by themselves. Just what is it that the King James has left out of this verse which has turned a grand and marvelous Spiritual Truth into a carnal-minded heresy? Why, just "GOD," that’s all. They left GOD out of this verse. And here is how God inspired this verse:
"And we know that GOD works together all things for Good to the (ones) loving God…" (Interlinear Greek-English New Testament, By J P. Green, Sr).
‘Now we are aware that GOD is working all together for the good of those who are loving God…" (Concordant Literal New Testament).
"We know, further, that unto them who love God, GOD causes all things to work together for good…" (Rotherham’s Emphasized Bible).
Putting "God" back into this verse, puts the Truth back into this verse."
Believe me I have been waiting for things to work out for the good. I love God, so I thought hah I got my houseclesning and washing dishes taken care of. LOL. Now, I understand it. Maybe God can work "me" for the good of my house to get cleaned. ;D
I did not know that "God" had been taken out of the verse. I have quoted this Scripture many times and most recently into a post to SandyFla I believe. This is why I have had so much trouble in believing this verse. Something deep down inside me knew that this verse was intrinsically wrong. This one little word makes ALL the difference. What a freedom there is not having to believe that "things" will workk out but that God will cause all things to work out. Now this is something that I can believe in and rest assured in. This I am taking to the proverbial bank.
Thought this would all interest you and bless you as it has me.
Have a great day.
Sincerely,
Anne C. McGuire
SandyFla:
--- Quote from: rrammfcitktturjsp on December 13, 2006, 10:42:20 AM ---Something deep down inside me knew that this verse was intrinsically wrong. This one little word makes ALL the difference. What a freedom there is not having to believe that "things" will workk out but that God will cause all things to work out. Now this is something that I can believe in and rest assured in. This I am taking to the proverbial bank.
--- End quote ---
Great post, Anne! No "thing" can happen without God allowing it, so it is indeed God who causes all things to work for our good.
Wishing you a blessed day,
Sandy
YellowStone:
Anne, you bring up a very good point, but unfortunatly, only one side if it. :)
Rev 22:18
* For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
You wrote:
I did not know that "God" had been taken out of the verse. I have quoted this Scripture many times and most recently into a post to SandyFla I believe. This is why I have had so much trouble in believing this verse. Something deep down inside me knew that this verse was intrinsically wrong. This one little word makes ALL the difference. What a freedom there is not having to believe that "things" will workk out but that God will cause all things to work out. Now this is something that I can believe in and rest assured in. This I am taking to the proverbial bank.
To be fair, how do you know that the word "GOD" was taken out? Could not in all fairness the reverse be asked? Why was the word "GOD" added to these other translations?
I have read what Ray states and agree with him 100% that of course "things" do not behave of "their" own accord, and that it is God who works all "things." However, in my search of original Greek Scripture, I have not been able to locate the word "God" in the position as described by the bibles mentioned by Ray. here is another reputable translation that does not add "God" to the passage
Romans 8:28 (Young's Literal Translation)
* 28 - And we have known that to those loving God all things do work together for good, to those who are called according to purpose;
So let's take the King James rendition in context:
Rom 8:27-29
* 27 - And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what [is] the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to [the will of] God.
* 28 - And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to [his] purpose.
* 29 - For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate [to be] conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
The whole passage is about God, I have never taken this Scripture to mean anything other than "God works all things for the good of them..."
So please do not take this post wrong. If you or any one can show me any Greek Scripture that supports the wordage supported by Ray, then please correct me. :)
Here is reference to Rom 8:28 that supports the King James & Youngs. http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/c.pl?book=Rom&chapter=8&verse=28&version=KJV#28 I have another from my Interlinear Hewbrew/Greek that I cannot quote from because I am at work.
Thanks Anne, :)
God is love
Darren
rrammfcitktturjsp:
Darren,
Thanks for writing this post. I will certainly look up the Greek if it exists.
No offense taken. It is good to look at the other side, course I really never considered the other side. Thanks for keeping me open-minded.
Sincerely,
Anne C. McGuire
Kat:
Hi Darren,
I found all these on my e-Sword.
Rom 8:28
(Rotherham) We know, further, that, unto them who love God, God causeth all things to work together for good,—unto them who, according to purpose, are such as he hath called;
(NASB) And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.
(GNB) We know that in all things God works for good with those who love him, those whom he has called according to his purpose.
(CLV) Now we are aware that God is working all together for the good of those who are loving God, who are called according to the purpose"
(CEV) We know that God is always at work for the good of everyone who loves him. They are the ones God has chosen for his purpose,
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
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