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rrammfcitktturjsp:
To all,


  Ray really excites me.  To be able to stand up for his faith and defend it astounds me.  I hope and pray that everyday, that I may be able to stand up courageously as he does. 

  I agree with you Arcturus, I would have probably done a much softer answer.  I do know that the Spirit was prompting Ray to say what he said in that manner.  Sometimes that fine line is so hard to walk.  That's why I am glad that I do not have to act on my own impulses anymore, I just wait for the Spirit to prompt me.

  Sincerely,


  Anne C. McGuire

gmik:
Hi,
Hanging around in pentecostal/faith..circles for years I would always cringe when people would just blab away...The Lord told me this and the Lord told me that.  I don't even get out of bed unless the Lord tells me.  I don't buy a can of peaches unless the Lord told me.  Get this one, one day a friend came over and looked around and said the Lord told her if my windows were clean than she was to tell me the Lord was pleased w/ me! One gal said the Lord always told her secrets in the bathtub.

Now, even tho I was "one of em" I never GOT all that.  I never heard from Him in such casual terms..he said, then I said, then He said....Now I never judged them as most of the time I believed them and assumed I was not as spiritual as they were.  But ya know what?? Those WERE brain farts!!! or they were liars!! Delusioned bcz they so badly wanted to be really like that!!

It was the fear of hell that got my husband and my attention to "get saved".  Gosh, I am so glad the Lord blessed me and got me thru it and out of all that.  Nothing I did, I wasn't looking for anything new in scripture.  I assumed I knew it all! ::)

Ha  I didn't know anything!!!!! :-[

love,
gena

Deborah-Leigh:
Yes gena  :D

Right on the button! I too have seen this. Some seek agreement and others seek the truth. Some seek to be right before man and others prefer right standing before God. And when emotionalism wedge its way in a discussion, truth seems to disappear and egos appear. Why do people always want you to accept and agree with them just because they said something? Is it maybe because carnal man always wants to be right? And where is God’s place in this? I believe in honesty and truth. But truth founded in thorough research, investigation, deliberation and discussions. Yet we must search for truth in the realization of Gods greatness and love.

I have seen the world, the Church and the world systems run parallel The Universities do what the Churches do. They both put up on their podiums or  the pulpits their anointed  ones and the "thus sayeth the Lord" authorities. Therewith they create the control and manipulation and indoctrination systems with what the Churches traditionally  / historically dominated and ruled the world. Nowadays with separation of State and Church the Churches domain just shifted to dominate, indoctrinate and manipulate people on an individual level (and definitely by group and cultural associations also) The Church uses your faith against you to control you. Likewise, as in the case of Universities, people of the world are impressed by strings of degrees behind a name that say nothing of the moral fibre or integrity of the person with such degrees.

Carnal agreement and fellowship in emotions will get you into the crowded temple where the crowds hanker after self-improvement. Spiritual solitude and no place for the son of man to rest His head will get you into the presence of God in submission to His grace mercy and unmerited favour.

I love it that Jesus was the son of a carpenter, Ray a retired roofer and Paul was the tent maker. Whether you are a king or a pauper, a rich man or poor man, God is sovereign and almighty. We all go through on individual pathways set before us by God. Most people do not like honesty and truth because it shows them for what they are and what they stand for and where they stand before God. The truth hurts, cleanses, purifies in chastising fire of integrity and right standing before God. Few indeed stand in this zone or are prepared to step into this kind of fire. Comfy cosy agreement, carnal sentimental fellowship is not the same as the bright light of honesty soulfully and painstakingly walked in solitude one on one fellowship with the Shepherd.

To be right is so overrated. To be true to God is enriching. 

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

Rene:
Arcturus,

I know you have heard this before, but I must say that you truly are blessed with the ability to express yourself in a beautiful and poetic way.  I do enjoy reading your responses!

May the Lord continue to bless you with wisdom and understanding.

Rene'

Deborah-Leigh:
Rene

Your words are kind, loving and encouraging. Thank you.

Peace and love to you

Arcturus :)

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