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rrammfcitktturjsp:
Hi to All,

  My friend and I were discussing the Nephilum today.  Anyone know if Ray writes anything about them?  What do you all think of them?

  Sincerely,


  Anne C. McGuire

mari_et_pere:

Ray writes about them somewhere. I'll try to dig something up. I think it's fascinating!

M@tt

mari_et_pere:

Here's something I found in his e-mail section:

Nephilum is not really a translation. It is used twice in the Revised Standard Version where the King James has "giants." These giants are not the result of the sexual union of angels and women, but are the offspring of a man and woman. The same is true for the giants called "Rephaim." There were apparently clans of giant people in Canaan. (See Num. 13:33).

Not a tremendous help I know. I was taught by my Baptist school the same thing Ray says (about the Nephilum). However I've read many other places that they were indeed the offspring of fallen angels and human women, and one of the things that brought on the Flood in Noah's day. Either way, it's a fascinating subject to me.

M@tt

rrammfcitktturjsp:
Matt,

  Hmm, well I got something to go for now.  I had been taught that they were the offspring of angels and man.  I will certainly begin to research the angle that you have presented, and will share my findings.  Yeah, another project to.

  Sincerely,


  Anne C. McGuire

skydreamers:
Hi Anne,
I was extremely fascinated with this subject about a year ago.  If you google nephilim you will get all sorts of information out there, some of it seemingly outrageous.  It is hard to imagine that spirit angels can procreate with humans.  I know the scriptures say angels in heaven do not marry.  But it seems that spirit beings can manifest into flesh and do fleshy things like eat (the angels with Abraham, and Jesus with his disciples).  I don't really know what to believe anymore after having done much research into this topic.  I highly respect what Ray has to say.   

I did find this interesting in my research however; the phrase "sons of God" in the hebrew is "bane eloheem".  This phrase in the hebrew is only found 5 times in the bible from what I can find:


1.  Genesis 6:2 ESV
the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose.

2.  Genesis 6:4 ESV
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.

3.  Job 1:6 ESV
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them.

4.  Job 2:1 ESV
Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them to present himself before the LORD.

5.  Job 38:7 ESV
when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?[/li]


There are those who contend that this phrase indeed refers to spirit angels based on the scripture above.  They say there is no way that human beings were with Satan presenting themselves before the Lord in the book of Job.  This is a mystery to me.  It seems convincing, but I've been convinced of things before only to find out I was wrong.

The thing is, what would be the meaning and purpose behind angels producing some sort of hybrid creatures with humans??  If you research this at all you will find all sorts of fantastical theories out there on hybrids and reptilians being produced out of this bizarre breed.  I think somewhere in scripture there is a description of them having six toes and obviously they are referred to as huge....and I've seen pictures of giants with six toes that are supposedly living to this day.  What does it all mean?? Who knows.  I have come to see that the spiritual meaning is much more important than the literal application. 

It's all very interesting on some level and it preoccupied me for many many hours at one time.  Spiritually it got me nowhere however.  That's not to say there isn't something to be learned, since we are told about them in the scriptures for a reason.  I would love to understand the spiritual application of the nephilim.  But I think I may have spent way too much time looking at it all too literally.  Having said that, I will still be following this thread with interest and love to see what you come up with Anne.  I can't help it....I'm still drawn to the mystery of it all.

Peace, Diana

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