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1 Corinthians 13
YellowStone:
Kat, thanks for your Scriptural reference :)
John 15:17 So I command you to love each other.
v.18 If the people of this world hate you, just remember that they hated me first.
v.19 If you belonged to the world, its people would love you. But you don't belong to the world. I have chosen you to leave the world behind, and that is why its people hate you.
This passage references the word "Love" twice (once in Green and then in Red)
Christ comanded each of us to love one another, for: He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 1Jo 4:8
But then Christ say's if we are still part of the world, then worldly people will love us. Surely this love is not the same as Christ commands us to do. Is there a difference?
I believe that true meaning for love has been invariably merged with "Lust"
Compact Oxford English Dictionary
Love:
verb 1 feel love for. 2 like very much. 3 loving showing love or great care.
Lust:
verb (usu. lust for/after) feel lust for someone or something
It is true, many lust for material possesions, girlfriends, boyfriends, money, power, recognition because they would "love" to have them.
But do you see the primary difference in the "Love of Christ" and the "Love of the world"?
To my understanding, the "Love of Christ" means giving yourself up as in: "I" am no longer the center of my world. Whereas, those in the world still hold on the "I" am the center of my world.
Certainly, we cannot see inside anothers heart; however, we can see the fruits of their heart. When I see someone showing Christ like care, love and charity to others, I can see the love of God.
Is the quality and quantity of this love dependant solely in their level of Scriptual understanding? So do we stop "loving" the people in the world? No, just the things that the people of the world, love and lust after.
Does this make sense.....
Christ like love to all,
Darren
PKnowler:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on December 27, 2006, 10:16:29 AM ---This morning I was contemplating how annoying I must have been with certain family members and friends when it came to "sharing" the many things I had discovered on Bible Truths, I was about as subtle as a sledgehammer cracking an eggshell. With others I was like Chinese water torture and with some folks like incessently bashing cymbals or a child practicing the trumpet in their beginner's stage.
--- End quote ---
I know what you mean Joe, in my zeal to share this wonderful truth I have been quite offensive. LOL you make me laugh... of the tortures you describe my sharing would be like Chinese water torture. ha ha.... ask my husband. Ok...., I know it's not funny! I am getting better though- really. 1 Cor 13 is the perfect scripture to examine ourselves by and make sure we are walking in love. Thanks for sharing that Joe!
Blessings, Paula
Kat:
Hi Darren,
Indeed I agree with what you have said.
The love that we have, when we are in the world can be sincere,
as the love of a mother to a child.
But I do think lust is surely confused with love by many in the world.
Also those in the world can not have a real love for all things,
that degree of love comes from Christ in us.
1Jo 4:12 ... If we love one another, God dwells in us, and His love is perfected in us.
Rom 5:5 ... because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts through the Holy Spirit given to us.
God not merely loves, but is love, it is His very nature.
1Jo 4:16 So we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.
He imparts this nature into His chosen, for he that abideth in love abideth in God, and God abideth in him,
and "His love is perfected in us," or as Strong has it -- to complete, that is, (literally) accomplish, or (figuratively) consummate (in character): - consecrate, finish, fulfil, (make) perfect.
I think that is how we know that Christ is in us,
we have an unnatural (unlike the world) love for all things :)
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
hillsbororiver:
Amen! Wow! Fantastic!
These are the words and emotions I felt reading through all of your posts, thank you.
I have been away for a couple days and I must say I have a lot of catching up to do here, I have perused some other topics that were started in my absence and I found so many edifying posts, some of you may be thinking "why don't you stay away a bit longer next time?" ;D
Charity I believe is a deeper form of love, it is easy to love those who have taken care of us or have looked out for us, shared our experiences, been friendly with or attracted to. Charity is loving or I should say manifesting love toward our enemies, strangers and the least appealing among us.
It is easier to say "love" than it is to actually be charitable, it is easy to proclaim an emotion but it can be challenging and inconvenient to act upon it, to sacrifice our comfort, time, etc. is charity, the manifestation of charitable works speaks volumes to those around us, selflessly giving our time or being generous with a word of encouragement or a buck or two for those in no position to help us is a sure witness of our love for Christ.
If our lives are an example of this we will hear those around us ask us the source of our motivation;
1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
gmik:
Hi all y'all,
Been gone for a few days visiting relatives. Glad to be back. I had no access to a computer!
Anyway, 2 things I want to share/confess:
1. My bro-in-law starts talking about heaven being a planet and people there are just having the best time......well, finally I said Oh there is no heaven as you described it and people are dead!! Well, everyone standing around fled...leaving just the 2 of us. We politely in an arguing sort of way, talked about it, I could express what I believe quite eloquently except I couldn't remember 1 single scripture!!! I was looking thru his bible and couldn't find anything. We left it at I will find some scripture and he said yes, like the time you thought there were 88 ways Jesus was coming back in 1988-you had scripture for that too!
(When will I learn????)
2. Walking down the streets of downtown Chicago a lady in front of me said something mean about someone smoking. Sort of under my breath I said, Lighten Up!! OMG
The fireworks hit the fan!! I smrted off back at her, she stopped and turned around and told me off. My son who was carrying my granddaughter on his shoulders got into the fray, saying hey lady its a free country-no law against smoking on the streets. She said Well, I have asthma!!! I said----So what? Why are you out at night, freezing if you are that sick.
Yes I said that!!! She F'@@@ at me, and then looked up at my granddaughter and said the F word 4-5 times at her. I just gasped and my son said oh thats classy lady real class. She gave us the finger and crossed the street. So, I yelled at her...You are pathetic!!!
I Cannot get over that I got involved in such a fray. I am still shaking over it. You know I have been studying at Bible truths for a year and a half, and I aM No better than that??
How quickly I got into it and had no other thoughts or control but to put this lady in her place-but yelling on the streets! (my son thought I was really cool!!) I am mortified I behaved like that and actually got a stranger so angry that she would cuss at a child!
Anyway, tht is my confession, so i would appreciate prayers/advice/opinions.
It is good to get back to my little computer room. I am kinda dangerous on the outside!!
Love,
gena :-[
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