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Saddam's execution. - Your thoughts,
seeker:
Well, i guess that this execution will please John Hagee. About a year ago this man of God announced to his packed congregation "The best thing that can happen to Saddam Hussain is for him to be hanged by the neck until he is dead" To great cheers and `Amens` from his massive congregation.
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: eggi on December 30, 2006, 04:09:02 PM ---The carnal man understands "an eye for an eye". That's how we are without the law of the Spirit. I don't know about your TV news, but here in Norway the footage showing Saddam before the execution has been played OVER and OVER again. SICK!
One of the ladies who were interviewed on the street in New York City said: "Praise the Lord! Justice has been done!" with a smile on her face. I may be at odds with general opinion, but to my understanding Jesus told us to not return evil with evil.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. (Mat 5:44-45 KJV)
Joe, I agree. This is all God's doing.
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Amen my friend, you shall now them by their FRUIT! This si the truth! Let us bare good fruit by the power of Him who works all things!
God bless,
Alex
YellowStone:
lilitalienboi16 wrote:
I actualy felt pitty for the man for some reason.. even after all he did, like he deserved a second chance, or something... This brought little peace to the world.. if thats what you mean. What good did it do, to hang a man who already has no power in the world? Saddam was dead when the US kicked him out of iraq into a little rat hole.
Please do not think that I am picking on you, but may I ask, for whom do you have the greatest pity? Saddam or the countless victims who suffered so cruely under his reign of terror.
Let us not for a moment forget, that Saddam was not given a choice to love and respect God. Is it Saddams fault that the llove of God and his Son Jesus Christ did not enter his heart?
If the answer is no, which it invariably must; how then are we criticize (NOT saying you did) :) the powers that be ion Iraq for trying him and condemning him to death.
Paul speaks clearly about this:
Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
While the carnal me feels very happy that some of the family members of those he tortured and killed can now feel a little vindicated (a carnal feeling, but they are of the world and sadly I still walk this world too)
However, the simple truth is that all of this, even the war is all of God. It is his will and should we feel sad that he is now dead, are we not kind of suggesting that God should have given him a second chance? Saddam had choices, he could have chose to search for God; Oh oh, maybe he did secretively who are we to judge. Do not worry of Saddam, for in my opinion he has a lot of cleansing to endure in times to come, but he will walk with us as a brother.
We must not concern us of ins and outs of this world, for better or worse, Saddam played a role in Gods plan for all of us that only God can fully know and understand.
Jhn 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before [it hated] you.
Jhn 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
Sure it was hard to love him because of his actions and words, but love him as one of God's creations and the promise to come
Jhn 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Once again, this is not an attack on you; rather, just a gentle reminder that ALL is according to God's will.
Love to all in Christ,
Darren
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: YellowStone on December 30, 2006, 05:18:20 PM ---lilitalienboi16 wrote:
I actualy felt pitty for the man for some reason.. even after all he did, like he deserved a second chance, or something... This brought little peace to the world.. if thats what you mean. What good did it do, to hang a man who already has no power in the world? Saddam was dead when the US kicked him out of iraq into a little rat hole.
Please do not think that I am picking on you, but may I ask, for whom do you have the greatest pity? Saddam or the countless victims who suffered so cruely under his reign of terror.
Let us not for a moment forget, that Saddam was not given a choice to love and respect God. Is it Saddams fault that the llove of God and his Son Jesus Christ did not enter his heart?
If the answer is no, which it invariably must; how then are we criticize (NOT saying you did) :) the powers that be ion Iraq for trying him and condemning him to death.
Paul speaks clearly about this:
Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
While the carnal me feels very happy that some of the family members of those he tortured and killed can now feel a little vindicated (a carnal feeling, but they are of the world and sadly I still walk this world too)
However, the simple truth is that all of this, even the war is all of God. It is his will and should we feel sad that he is now dead, are we not kind of suggesting that God should have given him a second chance? Saddam had choices, he could have chose to search for God; Oh oh, maybe he did secretively who are we to judge. Do not worry of Saddam, for in my opinion he has a lot of cleansing to endure in times to come, but he will walk with us as a brother.
We must not concern us of ins and outs of this world, for better or worse, Saddam played a role in Gods plan for all of us that only God can fully know and understand.
Jhn 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before [it hated] you.
Jhn 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
Sure it was hard to love him because of his actions and words, but love him as one of God's creations and the promise to come
Jhn 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Once again, this is not an attack on you; rather, just a gentle reminder that ALL is according to God's will.
Love to all in Christ,
Darren
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Yes i know its all according to God's will, but can i not feel pitty and sorrow for a man?
Though he has done evil, have not all of us? Are we not all 'in adam?' The only reason we didn't do what he did, is because we were not caused by God to do it, we were not raised the way he was [again God in controle], we were kept from this evil by God, so loveing ones enemy becomes easier to do, when we can understand that we would have done the same thing, had the Lord brought this upon us also.
Simply trying to love my enemy.. sorry.
God bless,
Alex
YellowStone:
Alex,
No offence taken and certainly none implied.
My point is: with Christ in our hearts are we to love the likes of Saddam more than any other such as his victims. Certainly we are instructed to love our enemies but we must love and feel love and concern for all others too.
So why should we suddenly feel remorse and sorrow for him for being put to death while feeling anger and indignation towards those that condemned him. Loving our enemies is one thing, but at the expense of justice and of the victims is another. Christ always helped the lowly and down-trodden, he also respected the rulers of the land when they so shamefully condemned him to death.
Does this make sense? :)
Love, Darren
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