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mrl1970:

--- Quote from: bobf on April 04, 2006, 03:03:28 AM ---Here is one of my favorites.

Luke 3:4 As it is written in the book of the words of Esaias the prophet, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. 5 Every valley shall be filled, and every mountain and hill shall be brought low; and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways [shall be] made smooth; 6 And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.

I spent many hours one day looking up all the key words... mountains, hills, valley, brought-low, crooked, straight, rough, smooth.

fyi
mountains, hills = high places, idols, pride
brought low = humbled
crooked = wicked, perverse
straight = upright, righteous

For the rest of the words, I could not really ascertain the exact symbolism.  If anyone knows what 'valley' symbolizes, I'd like to know.
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Mark 9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell (gehenna) fire: 48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. 49 For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt.

I like this one.  I read some commentaries one time and they all struggle with verse 49.  There is only one fire mentioned in this chapter and its gehenna fire.  So that fire will SALT those in it.

I would suggest keeping your list sorted as you add to it, so we can tell if a given verse is in your list.

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At Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary the 2nd def of valley is a low point or condition

mongoose:
Isn't it awesome how many scriptures there are which state that ALL WILL be reconcilled to God? 

mongoose

Origen II:
The thing I still don't understand is why is there so much fear in the Apostles and the early Church Fathers about people not getting saved, if they realized that everyone is going to be saved in the end anyways...

Joey Porter:
I think there could be a few possiblities.

Perhaps they have a deep understanding of just how tormenting it will be for those who are not in the kingdom.  Perhaps it will be far worse than we can even imagine.

Another reason would be that they wouldn't want to see the severe wrath of God fall upon any man, even if it's not for an endless amount of time.  If a loved one was going to be sent to prison for 30 years, would that not cast us into a great deal of sorrow?  Even though it's not a life sentence, it is a prolonged punishment.

orion77:
Hello Origen II,

I don't think it was so much of worrying about them being saved, but that they were not obedient to their Maker, and they knowing there was no eternal punishment as many believe nowadays, but still, which is true today, the judgment of God, which is inescapable.  Seems through reading the bible and what has happened to the prophets, apostles, our Lord, and the countless of others who have been judged while in this life is far better than being judged later.

I think all of us, knowing what we know now, see others in their condition, and are saddened by the fact they slander the name and character of God.  It is a strange thing, this life, while being amongst the many called, believing those many false doctrines, how we looked at others, and now with what God has done for us, now we see the many called in a sorrowful way.  Weird, if you know what I mean.

It's amazing that the end result is not from our perspective and from our limitations, but from a loving God whose ways are higher than ours.  This is the good news.

God bless,

Gary

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