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YellowStone:
John wrote:
Maybe I don’t have a clue about what faith is, and I trust that God will work it out, but isn’t it what we believe?
I agree absolutely John :)
I have always found am interesting paradox between "knowing" and "believing." I always believed in God and had total faith in his existance; however, my faith was limited my understanding, it lack thereof.
To be truthful, I had very little faith in the bible, for 12 men could make it say 12 different things. I agree, faith does not need to be set in concrete, but it cannot be based in shifting sands either.
Faith, is what we set given to believe. My faith is grounded by two Scriptures:
Rom 1:20
* For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Jhn 12:47
* And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
I see the love and majestic beauty of God everywhere, everyday. His thoughtfullness continues to amaze and he has promised that he will save even me.
I do not just believe that this will happen, I know it! What more is there? :)
Well that's my view, comments always welcome. :)
Love,
Darren
psalmsinger:
Luke 17:5
5 And the apostles said unto the Lord, Increase our faith.
(KJV)
John 3:30
30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
(KJV)
Thank God for His increase!
Barbara
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: John on January 03, 2007, 12:10:28 AM ---Hi Joe,
I am guilty of being vague at times. I could have said we are all a Moses instead of Pharaoh, or a Scribe or a Paul it does not matter, any and all of them and us included, have the faith that God has given each of us to live in. I just picked Pharaoh because God made it very clear that He raised him up (Pharaoh) to show His mighty works. Well, does God raise us all up for the same purpose? To show His great works through or in us? Some now and some later, but eventually ALL through faith? Some where vessels of honor and some dishonor. Some to glory and some to wrath, but all received faith.
Maybe I don’t have a clue about what faith is, and I trust that God will work it out, but isn’t it what we believe?
Peace,
John
--- End quote ---
Good morning John,
If we have been called then our examples are not Pharoah, Moses, Scribes, Pharisees, Paul or any man or woman, our example is Christ. We as newly conceived creatures should not be comparing ourselves to mortal humanity but seek the immortal Spirit of Christ within us. We will not all be called to the same office or receive the same gifts .
We of ourselves are no better than Pharoah, given the same circumstances we all are quite capable of doing any and all of the things he did. Do we contemplate his imperfection to justify our own? Or do we praise God for giving us eyes to see and ears to hear the voice of our Lord and calling us to Him?
We know Christ loved the Pharisees and Scribes, how much of His ministry was devoted to justifying their actions and words? How much of His ministry was devoted to putting their deeds in a positive light or stating there is no difference between who He has chosen and who He has not chosen. The fact of being called (and chosen) is nothing to be puffed up or vain about but should be an extremely humbling revelation.
Maybe I am totally misunderstanding you, if I am I apologize but I do not see the benefit of taking our eyes off of Christ to contemplate any justification of carnal human nature, the ability to forgive and love all of our brethren is also a gift from God, He has chosen who He will give it to at this time but anything else is taking our eyes off of the prize, which is Christ and becoming like Him through the faith He has provided us.
The simple answer to your question or postulation is, yes, the Lord uses all of us for His plan and purpose but only chooses a few to be judged in this life and participate in bringing the rest of His creation to Him in the next.
I believe by virtue of being a "peculiar people" that all are not the same in His eyes.
Deu 14:2 For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.
Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Rom 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness.
His Peace and Wisdom to you Brother,
Joe
John:
--- Quote from: John on January 03, 2007, 12:10:28 AM ---
Maybe I don’t have a clue about what faith is, and I trust that God will work it out, but isn’t it what we believe?
Peace,
John
--- End quote ---
Thanks for replying everyone, it is the glory of God to conceal a thing, and for now, this matter of understanding FAITH is concealed to me, so I am leaving it be. I am simple, so in keeping with simplicity,
Peace,
John
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