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kill or don't kill - does God change?
Deborah-Leigh:
The power available through the comprehension of Absolute v/s Relative is but ONE of the principles we need to master in order to navigate with discernment, the Spirit of God. The Principles and the exercise of them give us eyes to see the invisible.
1 Tim 4 : 8 For physical training is of some value, useful for a little, but godliness, spiritual training is useful and of value in EVERYTHING and in every way, for it holds promise for the present life and also for the life which is to come.
Other principles that need to be exercised and acquired are scattered throughout the LOF. Pivotal to these power tools are the teachings on Twelve Truths to Understanding His Word .
7 SPIRITUAL KEYS TO UNLOCK SCRIPTURE
1. "Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural (physical); and afterward that which is SPIRITUAL" (1 Cor. 15:45)
2. "Now ALL these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for OUR ADMONITION (to reprove, caution, warn, remind of obligation or duty) upon whom the ends of the world are come" (1 Cor. 10:11)
3. "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of an private interpretation (Gk: 'is becoming it's OWN explanation')" (2 Pet. 1:20)
4. "The words that I speak unto you, they ARE SPIRIT, and they are life" (John 6:63)
5. "In the mouth of TWO OR THREE WITNESSES shall every word be established" (2 Cor. 13:1 & Rev.11:3)
6. "...comparing (or: 'matching') SPIRITUAL things with SPIRITUAL" (1 Cor. 2:13)
7. "Thou art righteous, O Lord, which ARE and WAS and SHALL BE" (Rev. 16:5, also Rev. 4:8 & 11:17)
http://bible-truths.com/email14.htm#keys
I for one do not want to hear these words spoken of me! Heb 5 : 11 Concerning this we have much to say which is hard to explain, since you have become dull in you spiritual hearing and sluggish even slothful in achieving spiritual insight.
Ray says in his response to an e-mail : Matt 13:20
Think a moment about what you have just said. I wish people would read my material and LEARN THE PRINCIPLES involved. Once you understand the principle, then all of the Scriptures will take care of themselves. It does no good whatsoever to say one believes in the Sovereignty of God, but to then find verse after verse after verse which he thinks contradicts God' Sovereignty.
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
Deborah-Leigh:
Darren
You comment : But what is more important, is that he is the WAS, the IS and WHICH WILL BECOME.
I know of no place anywhere in the Scripture where it says that God will BECOME.
God is TO COME does not mean He will Become. God is the same yesterday today and tomorrow.
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
TimothyVI:
Darren, thank you for your answer. Your simplicity suddenly cleared up for me the question that I had about
God changing from the old testament to the new testament.
I guess it takes "simplistic" to finally crack through this thick skull.
If I see God as a taskmaster in the old testament, and only a loving God in the new testament,
It doesn't mean that He changed. He was both from the beginning. He chose to show us one side
of his being when it suited Him to do so, and was beneficial for our instruction.
Then show us more of His lovin nature after He got our attention.
I think that we may see even a third side of God when He chooses to come back and save the entire world.
Thank you all. I love what I am able to clarify through the help of each of you.
Tim
YellowStone:
--- Quote from: Arcturus on January 06, 2007, 07:28:46 AM ---
Darren
You comment : But what is more important, is that he is the WAS, the IS and WHICH WILL BECOME.
I know of no place anywhere in the Scripture where it says that God will BECOME.
God is TO COME does not mean He will Become. God is the same yesterday today and tomorrow.
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
--- End quote ---
Arcturus. I can see your point, but I think you will be able to see where I was heading with "become" from the following verse.
Rev 11:15
* And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become [the kingdoms] of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
This was the end-state, the final chapter and the God that "is to come" as you point out. I will agree, that I could have explained it a little better.
Thank you for pointing it out :)
Love to you,
Darren
Deborah-Leigh:
Darren
I must be blind! ;D I could not see that you were heading for Revelations 11: 15 but I did see your concluding comment that you arrived at : Who knows how the God who IS TO COME will differ from the those past? So does this mean that God changed or does it mean that God is in control and all is happening according to his will which was set from the beginning?
To answer your question; the God who IS to come will not differ from the God of yesterday, today or tomorrow. This does not mean that God is changed or that God in not in contorl of all that is happening according to His plan that will not be changed but will lead to all being saved who lived yesterday, who are alive today and who are preordained to live tomorrow. :)
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
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